Gaia Growing?

[wavepsychic]

 Only few Scientist except the earth growing over the continental Drift Theory. Some believe that the earth was smaller long ago... Could this be? Could Gaia grow larger from the inside out as it evolves.

[Adrian]

Hello WavePsychic,

Only few Scientist except the earth growing over the continental Drift Theory. Some believe that the earth was smaller long ago... Could this be? Could Gaia grow larger from the inside out as it evolves.

Yes this is quite possible - the entire Universe expands with evolution.  The Sun is getting progressively larger until one day it will consume the inner planets including Earth if Earth is still in this vibration by then which is extremely doubtful - in fact it may not be soon.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Young Gaia was small with only shallow seas. Where did all the water come from? Why is Gaia's growth increasing?

Most people don't know about such things, but I am sure you'd know.

[Adrian]

Hello Wavepsychic,

Young Gaia was small with only shallow seas. Where did all the water come from? Why is Gaia's growth increasing?

Most people don't know about such things, but I am sure you'd know.

Everything in the Universe evolves in the direction of expansion. The Universe itself is in a perpetual state of expansion under the influence of Mind at all levels. As Source expresses and experiences through humans and all other expressions of Source, Source, Universal Mind expands.

The human Mind is also inexorably connected and is an aspect of the planetary Mind of Gaia, so Gaia expands as we evolve and experience.

This is also the reason why the collective Mind of humanity will determine the outcome of the Transition of the Ages and the immediate destiny of Gaia.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Now I understand that we are a part of Gaia. So when life demands more water Gaia give it?

I have a question about eating seeds. Are seeds alive? Is eating a seed the same thing as eating a plant?

[Adrian]

Hello Wavepsychic,

I have a question about eating seeds. Are seeds alive? Is eating a seed the same thing as eating a plant?

That is an excellent question, and one that I have previously sought inspired answers to.

I am of the view that harvestable foods such as seeds, fruits and berries which of course contain seeds and others are provided to humans as part of our natural foods supply. 

This is the reason Divine Providence, working through nature, provides a massive excess of seed to account for both the natural food cycle and the reproductive needs of plants.

We see this in the oceans where sea creatures produce billions of offspring, 99.99% of which end up as food for fish, and the remainder surviving to continue the species. Notwithstanding the fact say only 0.001% of the offspring survives, it is still enough to perpetuate the species.

In nature many seeds are consumed by birds for example as well as other creatures and indeed are a crucial part of their diet.

So yes - I am absolutely sure that harvestable whole foods are intended to be our primary diet. This is supported by the fact that those consuming such a diet are vastly healthier and live much longer on average than those consuming artificially reared animal based products.

Divine Providence, God, never created factory farming of animals, but did provide us with an abundance of natural foods.

The Bible also supports this position:

"God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food". -- Genesis 1.29

Which is actually my own position.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Thank you Adrian! I knew I was right, there is no bad karma what so ever in eating seeds! The souls aren't incarnated into them yet, and if they are to be used as food they never will.

[melody]

Young Gaia was small with only shallow seas. Where did all the water come from?

Hello Wavepsychic,

I came across 2 theories where all the water came from.

One states that there was a lot of underground water trapped under the Earth’s crust. And when a major cataclysm took place, it all came through the breaches in the Earth’s crust.

The other theory presupposes a different scenario. The Earth once used to be a part of a much bigger planet which was called Tiamat and which consisted of a lot of waters. That planet was torn apart by a 12th planet (also known as Nibiru and sometimes referred to as Marduk) supposedly orbits our solar system on an extremely elongated elliptical orbit and comes to our proximity roughly every 3,600 years. The heavenly cataclysm created our Earth, as well as the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, and a large body of frozen water which during some further cataclysmic forces between the celestial bodies made this frozen comet finally empty itself unto the Earth, thus creating all the vast oceans on this planet.

You can read about the 12th planet and how Earth was created, as interpreted and extrapolated from an from ancient Sumerian epic by Zecharia Sitchin, in his book “The 12th Planet”.

Down below on this page on Sitchi's official site you can see the picture how the collision occurred that created the Earth.
http://www.sitchin.com/comet.htm

This is the Home page of Sitchin's website
http://www.sitchin.com/

You can read a bit about Sitchin in Wikipedia, which presents a bit different point of view.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin

As about the water surging from underneath of the Earth’s crest, that came from a video by Walter Veith. As for the notion of the frozen water comet emptying all the waters onto Earth, that came from a video by Michal Tsarion. Both videos are given a link to in this forum, but I don’t remember precisely which videos they were, given I posted many links to videos by those two man.

[wavepsychic]

I used to believe in that Tiamat Theory but I just don't anymore. I believe it was translated wrong. That 12th planet was in between Mars and Jupiter and had nothing to do with Gaia. It broke some how, maybe Ceres had something to do with it.

I don't buy the other Theory either but I think its closer. I think Uranium some how makes water when its in the core of a planet. Water is made up of very light elements. It could easily come from inside where everything else comes from. The core of the earth could Materialize Hydrogen & Oxygen. The Uranium could cause enough heat and pressure for water.

Anyway just thinking out loud.

[Adrian]

Hello,

Where water originally came from on Earth has been the subject of considerable debate and a large number of theories ranging from plausible to fringe.

A very well supported theory among scientists is that water arrived here in comets - i.e. comets colliding with Earth filled the Oceans. Considering the number of comets that would require to fill the oceans - trillions - who knows - and considering comets never even hit the Earth these days, I think that theory is is typically too convenient.

Why do scientists overlook the fact that water is the product of a reaction between the elements hydrogen and oxygen, both of which were and are abundant, and the conditions for which almost certainly existed at the time. Perhaps first as water vapour, or steam, later condensing to form water.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

I believe Adrian is talking about is primordial water that appeared some time after the beginning, well, maybe a longer time after the beginning of this planet. What the two theories that I mentioned before referred to was the water that appeared at the Great Flood that came later on. Though that water had subsequently subsided, some believe there is much more of it now than there was before.

A good question would be where did all that water from the Great Flood had gone? Get absorbed under the Earth's crust? Evaporated? I don't think it evaporated since the rate of evaporation is stable and were it to increase it would have by now caused to evaporated all our oceans.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

I believe Adrian is talking about is primordial water that appeared some time after the beginning, well, maybe a longer time after the beginning of this planet. What the two theories that I mentioned before referred to was the water that appeared at the Great Flood that came later on. Though that water had subsequently subsided, some believe there is much more of it now than there was before.

A good question would be where did all that water from the Great Flood had gone? Get absorbed under the Earth's crust? Evaporated? I don't think it evaporated since the rate of evaporation is stable and were it to increase it would have by now caused to evaporated all our oceans.

This is indeed am enigma.

I would have thought that the Great Flood was a metaphor except for the fact I know it was not.

The entire book of Genesis chronicles the last evolutionary step of humanity - Adam and Eve never existed as people, they were a metaphor for the next evolution of human being that became who we are today.

There have been 5 great evolutionary "cleansings" of humanity leading to the next evolution. Previous cleansings have corresponded to the 5 Universal Elements of Fire, Air, Earth and Water - the last chrnicles by Genesis being water. The previous three took place before recorded history.

The current evolution is Ether - the quintessence of the previous 4 taking place at the end of the great 25,800 cycle. Ether represents Spirit representing the next evolution of humanity that I call Homo Spiritus, the Hopi call Homo Luminous etc.

The outcome, the mode of evolution has yet to be determined and will be according to the consciousness of humanity over the next few years.

Going back to the Great Flood - I have 27 different references from diverse and unconnected cultures from all around the world documenting a "great flood" and describing how they survived.  In addition to Genesis, The Epic of Gilgamesh, the great Babylonian work from Ancient Sumeria also documents it.

I am firmly of the view therefore that the Great Flood happened, and probably wiped out around 90% - 95% of all humans at the time, the survivors becoming what humanity is today.

This time around mankind has the choice of whether to evolve through Enlightenment, or through another purgative event where the Universe effectively pushes the reset button as in previous events after humanity failed to take the right course.

As to the question of where the water came from and where it eventually went remains an enigma.

The Sumerians talk of a "terrible water spout that rose to the sky". The Assyrians talk of "tidal seas and water spouts....the corpses of the drowned floated like seaweed".  The duration of deluge according to the survivors lasted anything from a few hours to several days, and the duration of the flood anything up to 52 years in the case of the ancien Aztec and Toltec records.

The Hopi records state - "The waters were loosened upon the Earth, waves higher than mountains rolled in on the land. The continents broke asunder and sank beneath the waves".

Inca - "A Llama staring sadly at the sky told his owner that the sea would cover the Earth. The Llama led his owner to the top of Mount Villcatato where people, birds and animals had congregated".

In the Greek records - "Deluge lasted for 9 days and nights with water issuing from the earth and the sea overflowing".

And so it goes on.

The origin of the water tends to be recorded as great water spouts from the Earth as well as rain.

I don't think we should dwell too much on this. Universal cycles enacted the last evolution of humanity, by Water, the mechnics of which we may never understand and in any case are moot.

We should be focusing on Enlightenment in readiness for this next great evolution, and the completion of a great Cycle.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[malganis]

I've watched all clips in one afternoon. It's very convincing that Earth indeed grows.

http://www.nealadams.com/morescience.html

http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

[wavepsychic]

I believe Adrian is talking about is primordial water that appeared some time after the beginning, well, maybe a longer time after the beginning of this planet. What the two theories that I mentioned before referred to was the water that appeared at the Great Flood that came later on. Though that water had subsequently subsided, some believe there is much more of it now than there was before.

There wasn't much water when Gaia was young, its impossible. The one Continent Theory can't exist with as much water as we have today.

I never really believed in the great flood until I read what Adrian wrote. I couldn't see how a few people living in the middle east without airplanes could have known that the earth was completely covered in water. But if it is recorded by many cultures then I seems as though it did happen.

If such a flood did happen then one Theory I have is the gravitation force of an object caused Tsunamis.

Or that water vapor being created and condensed inside the earths crust flowed up into the oceans. If Gaia is growing maybe there were times when she was larger but didn't have as much water. So her size and how much water wasn't aways consistant. After the great flood she continued to grow, the water didn't leave.

I guess the only way to know is to ask Gaia her self, but Adrian is right the important thing is Spiritual Evolution.

There have been 5 great evolutionary "cleansings" of humanity leading to the next evolution. Previous cleansings have corresponded to the 5 Universal Elements of Fire, Air, Earth and Water - the last chrnicles by Genesis being water. The previous three took place before recorded history.

Fire makes sense or should I say ice. Scientist believe that 90% of ancient people were killed off by a Super Volcano. The Ash killed the most.

[melody]

I've watched all clips in one afternoon. It's very convincing that Earth indeed grows.

http://www.nealadams.com/morescience.html

http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

Hello Malganis,

Thank you for contributing those links. Very interesting!