Friendship

[wavepsychic]

One of the most painful things in this life is friendship. Friends come and go. One year you'd have best friends then there just gone out of your life as quickly as they came. If your like me you've probably had best friends when you were very little. Different best friends when you were in Middle School. Different friends each year of High School. Different best friends that live near you. Then different ones now. But they always move on in the end & new people come into your life. WHY? Where do they go, & why do people have such dramatic change of friends from one year to another?

[Awakened Soul]

But if they're are really such good friends, you could keep in touch via instant messengers like msn, icq, etc., right? And then meet in holidays or something.

It's not the same, but at least you can keep contact that way.

[juliainkc]

Good Morning Louis and AS,

Here's a little something from Kahlil Gibran on friendship:

And a youth said, Speak to us of Friendship.
And he answered, saying:
Your friend is your needs answered.
He is your field which you sow with love and reap with thanksgiving.
And he is your board and your fireside.
For you come to him with your hunger, and you seek him for peace.

When your friend speaks his mind you fear not the "nay" in your own mind,
nor do you withhold the "ay".
And when he is silent your heart ceases not to listen to his heart;
For without words, in friendship, all thoughts, all desires,
all expectations are born and shared, with joy that is unacclaimed.
When you part from your friend, you grieve not;

For that which you love most in him may be clearer in his absence, as the mountain
to the climber is clearer from the plain.
And let there be no purpose in friendship save the deepening of the spirit.
For love that seeks aught but the disclosure of its own mystery is not love but
a net cast forth: and only the unprofitable is caught.

And let your best be for your friend.
If he must know the ebb of your tide, let him know its flood also.
For what is your friend that you should seek him with hours to kill?
Seek him always with hours to live.
For it is his to fill your need, but not your emptiness.
And in the sweetness of friendship let there be laughter, and sharing of pleasures.

For in the the dew of little things the heart finds its morning and is refreshed.

Love to All,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Hi Awaken, and Julia.

People do not consistently use messangers or myspace like things.

Who is Kahlil Gibran? Those words are nice, a bit long and over stated though. I am a huge fan of Confucius.

[juliainkc]

Hello Louis,

Here's a description of Kahlil Gibran from Wikipedia:

Khalil Gibran
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Born Gibran Khalil Gibran bin Mikhael bin Saâd
January 6, 1883(1883-01-06)
Bsharri, Lebanon
Died April 10, 1931 (aged 48)
New York City, United States
Occupation Poet, Painter, Sculptor, Writer, Philosopher, Theologian, Visual Artist
Nationality Lebanese
Genres Poetry, Parable, Short Story
Literary movement Mahjar, New York Pen League
Notable work(s) The Prophet

Khalil Gibran (full name Gibran Khalil Gibran bin Mikhael bin Saâd, Arabic: جبران خليل جبران بن ميخائيل بن سعد, Syriac: ܟ݂ܠܝܠ ܔܒܪܢ) (born January 6, 1883 in Bsharri, Lebanon; died April 10, 1931 in New York City, United States) was a Lebanese American artist, poet, writer, philosopher and theologian. He was born in Lebanon (at the time the Mount Lebanon sub-district in the Ottoman province of Syria) and spent most of his life in the United States. He is the third bestselling poet in history after William Shakespeare and Lao Tse.[1]


I shared this with you Louis and All because it seems appropriate in what it says about the beauty of true friendship isn't about pain. Any relationship with another is painful only when one expects their own emptiness to be filled by another, which no one can do for another. This is why we see so many relationships crash and burn or dissipate.

I am sorry you felt it was overstated. Perhaps it was meant for another who may be reading this. One never knows...........

Many Blessings, Be Well and InJoy Living this day,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

So he a Philosopher and Theologian. So but I think those are complete opposites. I do not like Religion at all but I have such a love for Philosophy. I didn't mean to sound negative about it being long. I am just used to Confucius, his quotes are short & sweet.

I do understand. I think we have different friends because they are teaching us something about ourselves. Ex-specially the bad friends. Confucius said something about when you come across friends of contrary character look within. If you look him up you can find the original quote. I understand that friends don't feel emptiness. Thanks Julia.

[juliainkc]

Good Evening Louis,

Just a simple definition (one of many) regarding theologian:

Theology is the knowledge of God. It is not a result of studying books or exercising the reason; it is on the one hand a fruit of the knowledge of God and of the personal experience of Him; on the other hand it is the way which leads to the healing of man and the knowledge of God. ...

Again, God (IT) is an abbreviation for One's Source, Tao, whatever One wishes to call the UnNameable. For myself, I have become more aware of when I don't like something (i.e. "religion" or the word "God") or resist it, it may contain the very thing I 'need' to move beyond my resisting it. H mm...

I understand enjoying short thoughts about things. It's like eating a snack to get quick energy. Longer thoughts take awhile longer to absorb. Food for thought. It's thoughts like these that make this one slow down and let it rest. It sustains me longer.

I moved every two to two and a half years after the age of seven. I made friends and let them go. Their contribution added to my life and is a part of this Spiritual Being's ongoing human experience.

What affected me about having had this experience of moving around so much is I have developed an awareness that I can choose to enter any relationship by freewill and choice, a decision made by both parties whether realized or not.

I can be with you because I freely choose to be and not because I have to be out of a need to get something from you. That helps me to let go when the purpose for both are served in the relationship. It can be done in Peace.

Again, it's taken alot of having this experience over and over again and it is still ongoing. Hindsight is 50/50. Some friends are with me for a moment, some for a season and some are here to walk the entire way with me, sometimes we don't 'meet' until a certain moment, but we recognize one another and on we go.....

Just sharing another thought about True Friendship that was in Dear Abby years ago and I clipped it. Funny, but I went to my dear friends house later and I noticed she had clipped it and had it on her refrigerator too:

"But Oh! the blessing it is to have a friend to whom one can speak fearless on any subject; with whom one's deepest as well as one's most foolish thoughts come out simply and safely.

Oh, the comfort --- the inexpressable comfort of feeling safe with a person --- having neither to weigh thoughts nor measure words, but pouring them right out, just as they are, chaff and grain together; certain that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and then with the breath of kindness blow the rest away."

From "A Life for a Life" By Dinah Maria Mulock Craik

InJoy the weekend All,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

You're a Very Advanced person Julia. I agree with you, everything happens for a reason. Meeting friends is no exception. Even us talking on here is for a reason. Its hard for me to read  your post, I'm not a very intellectual person. I just have a talent for understanding & feeling. I'm not a Intellectual Genius but I am a Genius of Wisdom. I understand more then I memorize from what you said.

I can tell that your a very smart person in literature. That isn't my thing. Hard it is to read what you type, I understand it none the less.

Thanks Julia. Everyone will meet up in Spirit anyway right.

[juliainkc]

Hey Louis,

Thank you for your thoughts. I would have to give credit to All the Beings who have been a part of my ongoing growth experience who are on the same leveled path I walk. My equals.

I share definitions because there really are so many ways to say things and yes, the opportunity is always there for mis-understandings of meanings.

Its hard for me to read  your post, I'm not a very intellectual person. I just have a talent for understanding & feeling. I'm not a Intellectual Genius but I am a Genius of Wisdom. I understand more then I memorize from what you said.

I appreciate your honesty in regards to the 'hardness' of understanding what I write. Everyone is given the gift of understanding and feeling. I too am not an Intellectual, in my growing experience here, I have found that intellectualism is more concerned with knowing 'about' One's Source and not Knowing IT. Big difference.

I will have to pay more attention to your Genius of Wisdom and learn from what you are sharing here.

You lost me on the last sentence in the quote above.

Self-Expressing One's experiencing 'God' flows in many ways. Some write, some sing, some draw and on it goes. One is no less important than another. Variety and Diversity is Universal. It's all in the way it shows up for each of us. I see that we All have a desire to share something that is so beyond words that the 'feeling' of it creates a desire to share the wonder of IT with others. Sometimes it comes across as one 'Lording' it over others. Ah well, the ongoing learning process.

You say you are a Philosopher and perhaps not a Theologian. Hmmm... Okay, here is one of many definitions for Philosopher, followed by the definition of Theology:

Philosophy is the discipline concerned with the questions of how one should live (ethics); what sorts of things exist and what are their essential natures (metaphysics); what counts as genuine knowledge (epistemology); and what are the correct principles of reasoning (logic).

"The objects of philosophy . . . are upon the whole the same as those of religion. In both the object is Truth, in that supreme sense in which God and God only is Truth."

Again, these definitions are mere words and symbols.

Thanks Julia. Everyone will meet up in Spirit anyway right

Indeed. I think that is what is happening right Now.

Just thinking out loud......

Many blessings, Be Well and InJoy this day,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

I like you're definition of Philosophy however I still don't like Theology. Theology can easily take people in the wrong direction.

[melody]

Hello Julia and all,

Julia, it is a beautiful poem that you posted above. Kahlil Gibran is a great poet and expressed the essence of friendship very well. Friendship is really a source of a lot of delight in life. That is, when we do not expect other people to fill our needs or voids. An element of friendship is also very important, I believe, in intimate relationships and in families. But sometimes we simply grow out of certain friendships, where people develop different interests and philosophies, and have nothing much anymore to share. One should not really try and hold onto those relationships where people have grown too much apart,

As we go through life, we have to go though certain experiences and get certain understanding. And we encounter people on various stages of our life that help us to accomplish inside us what needs to be done. And then we get to meet other people for our next stage, and so on. It is good though, if there stay by a few people that are life-long friends who understand us and all the stages we have gone through.

[juliainkc]

Good Morning Melody,

I appreciate your wonderful thoughts here and I heartily agree with you. I also feel that friendship is vital yet sadly lacking in most intimate relationships. It's what allows one to look across the table at another in those moments when the thought, "What the hell was I thinking," transforms into "I love you even when you look or act like hell." Embracing the whole experience by growing with another that gives the relationship it's depths and heights and all arounds of a shared experience.

A thought shared with me about the empty space:

"But the mind of God contains all things. It is a cup that is forever empty. No matter how much wine we pour into it, it never gets filled up. That is the profound blessing we are all coming to. That is the prayer on our lips, the forgotten song we remember as our hearts open to each other. It simply says, "Welcome brother and sister. The place you left has remained empty, awaiting your return. Welcome home."

Everything in its perfect 'timing'. Letting in and letting go.

Again, I enjoyed the thoughts you shared here. Namaste.

Many Blessings, Be Well and InJoy this day,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Thank you Melody, you words are Perfect. No one can say that better, that is what I felt all along.

Julia you're right, no mater how much we pure into our cups, its never full.

I love you both, good day