Femininity/Masculinity/Sexual Energy Related

[Mina-Laura]

Hello Talker and everyone else who reads this.

To me sex falls very much in the same category with religion. And is a very good example about human tendency to misuse a wonderful gift. Ranging from tabu, indulgence, ignorance, art, exploitation, diseased tendencies… and the list can go on and on. The main argument that I hear from self-righteous people is that sex is simply a form of procreation and not to be used or misused in any other context (mainly pleasure…mainly the so called carnal pleasure).
I guess inevitably upon reaching higher spiritual realms the eternal question remains.
What is sex after all?

And as I start expressing my up-close and personal uptake on the sexual matter the first thing that comes in front of my eyes are my children. What do I tell my children about this thing called sex, so they grow healthy and whole? 
What do I have to share and teach from my life that would really benefit them, the future generation.
And hopefully fixing this broken image about this aspect of human biology that somehow got entangled with other senses and took refuge in the most secret recesses of the human mind?
Something that I was never told yet somehow deep down inside I knew it all along.

First of all it takes 2 to tango. And both to understand the basics that for instance sex can be just that, sex.  Possibly it can be great sex.
Of course than there is love making that is just that. For instance you can make love because of a strong bond and it can be nice.

But than there is the spiritual threshold when the mind is open, and when it happens the lovemaking becomes inspired. In spirit. And sex is just the physical side of an earth shattering experience when all senses are engaged at the highest possible vibration.   

Then, sex becomes one of the secret keys which, when used in the right combination with all the other ingredients will open one of the portals through which heaven may come down on earth, in a sacred union between physical and spiritual.
And each time it feels as the first time and each time is better than the last…because you see in the another ‘the beloved’. The Spirit. The Love. How wonderful to look Love in the eyes...

I personally believe that as we progress in human evolution sex is the perfect example on how opening your mind can make the difference between having the experience of sex on earth or having the heaven on earth.

And I am grateful to have known both worlds and to know the difference.



love - Laura

[zensunni7]

http://www.powerfulintentions.org/video/frequency-of-sex-my-1st-dimen

[Talker]

Warm Welcome,
Julia, Darrell, Laura and All,

Darrell, the video site was worthwhile. Did observe the Chakra scene background near the ending, and points out much more, along with  the actual written words.
Now for some news of the decades. LOL.
I was the most naive young pup of the litter.  Had no clue at all, of what sex was all about.  : :In fact if any had asked me, at that young age, 'what sex are you', I would probably have asked 'what does the word mean?'. Landing on the farm at a young age, was how I became aware of what sex involved. Mom, (bless her) would cover my eyes, if an animal was mating.  Of course that prompted a 'what they doing!' comment from me.  :|Sheesh. One of my brothers kind of clued me in, never did become aware how he learnt what sex meant. Of course what I was told from the brother, was that they were F...ing.  Wow, new word, and promptly made mom aware of it.  (Pow, across the face and prayer time for forgiveness. My second dad was more down to earth and secretly mentioned 'that's how baby calves are made and is called mating'.    OOh! Thanks dad. Now a new awareness was in place, and sure enough, there was plenty to observe now. Cows, bulls, sheep, hogs, ducks, chickens, goats, birds, geese, and squirrels all DID IT. Became so common place, that the mating process was only an indicator of when the next additions were going to arrive. Finally became aware that the same process applied to people.    What!
Will leave the story telling of that for another time.
Be Well

[juliainkc]

Hey Talker and All,

  :lol:Thank you so much for sharing this story here!! I love it. Innocence at its best.

I'll save the elephant story for another day...

Will share that while living in Europe we took our daughters to the zoo. Well, ahem, Love was in the air!! And I mean everywhere.
I had my first experience of dolphins mating. And guess who was craning her neck to figure out what the heck is that?!? My girls were standing there with me and looking hard as well. Their dad comes up to me and I point and say what is that? He pulled me back red faced and whispered in my ear. OH! Uh...Sommer and Sara? Let's go.... What are they doing mommy? They are making babies. let's give them their privacy (huge windowed aquarium).

On the drive back to Germany, we were in Austria and passing lovely rolling green hills when my daughter pipes up in the back, "LOOK Mommy!! How sweet!! That cow is giving that other cow a piggy back ride up the hill!!"

Response? Yes Indeed!! And then the deep, deep laughter.

Ah, so many ways to say it. Let me tell you bout the birds and the bees...and a thing called Love.

InJoy this day,

Love to you and All ~

Julia

[Mina-Laura]

Hi friends

There is a deep truth in all this funny stories shared here, a truth we cannot escape indeed. The learning curve can take such somersaults.     I think is great for all the children that can have such relaxed parents.

Just take it easy, and you’ll get there.
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I urge you child
Enter with respect and caution in the sacred temple of love.

Darrell I took a look at the video. Interesting…
However I would like to mention that my approach to sex is more of the nature of a ‘healthy’ attitude towards lovemaking. Of two people that share into a closer intimate physical union.
Of the type that keeps a relationship always in the realization of the miracle of shared intimacy and reassurance of everlasting magic. I guess if the 2 that make love and sex is a part of it, (as we all know that is a higher part in ourselves that tells us that lovemaking is possible without the physical pleasurable consummation) and they so desire as to travel to alternate realities ...whatever. My common sense is telling me to use with caution and respect this sensational gift of the 2nd chakra.
What I am saying here that under no circumstances the gift should be treasured or valued more than the giver. And sex falls into one of the reasons for a need for a relationship in the first place.
Of the fact that is not about getting what we want, but in helping each other in becoming the-best-versions-of-ourselves.

have a happy lovemaking...

love - Laura

[Talker]

Julia,
O.M.G., the birds and the bees do it too! 
           

Of the type that keeps a relationship always in the realization of the miracle of shared intimacy and reassurance of everlasting magic

What I am saying here that under no circumstances the gift should be treasured or valued more than the giver. And sex falls into one of the reasons for a need for a relationship in the first place.
Of the fact that is not about getting what we want, but in helping each other in becoming the-best-versions-of-ourselves.

have a happy lovemaking...

love - Laura

Hi Laura,
Points well understood and appreciated.
Just lightly tickling my humorous reflects of time past.
The spirit willing, will commence to get more serious about the experiences as they matured.
Be Well

[zensunni7]

Hi All,

Yes, the magical state of innocence often shattered at zoo's and farms. At least parents seeking words that they choke on.

I found the film interesting also, a look into possibilities and imaginative avenues of Human potentials, although during sex, seeking alternate realities isn't what I am thinking of usually.
But just as fantasy oriented as that film may be, expectations within a sexual relationship are also put upon the same overpowering pedestal. It is not something debating and arguing will cease to until we cease being a race that bases monogamous love by the standard of sexual attraction being the basis of Love and sexual action being the basis of trust within a relationship.

I  do not believe anyone can maintain the ' honeymoon ' over a long term marriage or relationship,it is a set up that is doomed to defeat. I am sure there is a sincere desire and honest commitment to everlasting magic, yet it is not attainable in our present ideal of love.

Marianne Williamson wrote - wisely, love in our culture is a subtle form of prostitution, and I would agree with her. We do not give love freely, we trade it and for it, and sex is often the currency of relationships.
Love so strong and beautifully sexual often deteriorates to ' I love you - if and I love you - but.' and all are sex for trade. Men are often accused of being sexual whores, willing to have sex anytime, anywhere, with anyone. While women are pedestaled as prizes to be attained n the ' hunt ' for sex.
Both equally guilty of sex for trade for one prize or another.
I can love people from the opposite sex and not want to bed them, just as I can find some sexually attractive, but not love them. To say to a woman I will not ever desire to act on sexual feelings outside this relationship is a lie.
For a woman to say to me she will not ever desire another man is also a lie.
Truth be known by statistics, women cheat more often than men. The cheating I feel is not about what I may or not be, it is not Human nature to be sexually monogamous. Regardless of the ideal goal, it inevitably will cause the demise of most relationships.
There exists in the inception of relationships,and teachings of love and sex, a basic lack of honesty in the nature of people.
Many say that sex outside of procreation is wrong, which is just not dealing with your sexuality, and repressing it, while others go to the other extreme. But we have a long way to travel on this road of pleasure before we see truth I believe.
I can joke about sexual enhancement products because I see the ridiculousness of them. I am 57 and do not require Viagra, nor care if my mate wants me bigger. If big is all you care about, there are plenty of farms around here - have fun!

Sex is and can be a miracle, but rarely is. If those here are that evolved, then I stand corrected.
But the truth is- sex has killed more relationships than enhanced them. I feel it is about where you are at as an individual.
I am also sure I will get alot of grief about this,but like sex, that's life too.

Love to All
Darrell

[juliainkc]

Hello Everyone ~

Wow!! This room is growing!! Obviously a subject many are interested in! Thank you Talker for bringing it up.

Julia,
O.M.G., the birds and the bees do it too! 
          

And the flowers and the trees...

Of the type that keeps a relationship always in the realization of the miracle of shared intimacy and reassurance of everlasting magic

What I am saying here that under no circumstances the gift should be treasured or valued more than the giver. And sex falls into one of the reasons for a need for a relationship in the first place.

Of the fact that is not about getting what we want, but in helping each other in becoming the-best-versions-of-ourselves.

have a happy lovemaking...

I agree Laura, it is about intimacy. The greatest gift of the giver is to be fully present in the moment and not out there some where. Whether it is making Love physically or just hanging out sharing Love together.

There is a saying that 'sex begins in the kitchen' as in before the act ever takes place, it's about the relationship you have together in all aspects of everyday living.

I feel it is about where you are at as an individual.

I agree also with you Darrell. Our relationship with ourselves will determine the relationship we have with another.


With children, I feel it is better to be relaxed and not make a big deal out of it while being open to talk about it. It seems when you do, they don't make a bigger deal out of it. And there again, these little wonders are here to experience their own life, sometimes it's like driving with one who is taking a crash course, even when you have guided them... they seem to find their own roads to travel...

Sounds like us, hmm...to growing together ... 

Love you All ~

In Divine Spirit,

Julia

[HareOm]

  (demons)

Sex ?

Americans are engineered to be slaves ,

the male's sensitive is cut off from him shortly after birth, ritual torture for the sake of being normal,
the infant experiences tremendous trauma during this ,

because the male BELIEVES WITH ALL HIS ARROGANT MIGHT that there is 'NOTHING WRONG' and the is "sensitive" and that sex "feels good" when he has NO IDEA WHAT IS MISSING AND HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM HIM

the entire energetic play between man and woman is literally fucked up!

without a properly functioning foreskin the pituitary gland decays , wonder why they cut you ? that's one of the reasons...... and the energy dynamics of tantra are broken ?

why ?

do you really wanna know ? there is no turning back,
and how dare we inflict this upon our children!
(or women , either!) [or anyone!]



really this is a warning...




alrighty then

when the focus of pleasure is not intricate physical sensations by finely turned nerves (glans/clitoris are the same tissue yet circumcision fux this up!) the cues for orgasm come from a much more violent and hyper-masculine (i.e. violent) stimulation, a stimulation that comes from simply bludgeoning the fux out of the organ (and hers) rather than feeling intricate female sensations (circumcision is taking the FEMALE AWAY FROM THE EQUATION, cutting the yin yang in half, a NO NO) without a frenulum or any other sensitive apparti

it bcomes very hard to balance perfectly upon the climax of near orgasm where all sexual energy is converted into kundalini and flows effortless up the spine... why ? pay attention!
think about this

don't just read it, this is necessary to save future generations
UNDERSTAND AND LISTEN

the foreskin and its sheathing action in regulation to pumping and moving in and out of itself causes the man to feel hyper sensitive feelings just as powerful as the woman does, and allows him to find his perfect poise in SUBTLE MOTION (which is LOST SUBTLETY IS ***DEAD*** WHEN SENSITIVE IS AMPUTATED) do you understand ? we are talking about carving a babies body parts off often times without pan medication ? t!!!!! this is lifetime multiation , you have to feel disgust here...
I pray you do,


with subtlty lost the tantra is imbalanced, and the energy dynamics are mutilated and transmogrified, the male lusts after ejaculation, which causes him to have NO TRUE SATISFACTION only the illusion of fulfillment causing the female to be a succubus in nature as he is constantly barraged by women posing erotically everywhere he can look within and without the media.....

he is only interested in the brief fleeting moment of release, and while the buildup feels good, his senses are so far dulled that few and far between is a man who notices how to invoke the state of tantra and move the energy up
and even if he does, at least 75% of his true pleasure, the essence of his enjoyment, his birthright, is taken away when the nerves are taken away

if you really want to fight me go away ! and if you really want to know research,
there is a TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VITALLY NECESSARY NERVE ENDINGS that are IN the foreskin let alone estrogen receptors, a frenulum which acts like a clitoris to play with to balance upon tantric edge without needing to ejaculate, enhancing pleasure, let alone numerous other things we know fuck all about because in the name of "the good" we have carried out unspeakable horrors, as we often do ......

can you see if your eyes are taken away ? what if your pineal is clogged up with poison, will your third eye be open ?
then how can you have proper sex without foreskin ?

IT IS ENGINEERED AMPUTATION BY EVIL FORCES who do not want us to be fulfilled,
the ultimate state of LOSING LOSING LOSING is ejaculating ejaculating ejaculating,

it is meant to be transmuted up into the brain..... why is the east smart ? full of wisdom, attaining samadhi often, and the westerners a bunch of arrogant jerks ? because their society is very very very very crude in comparison .......

wanna know why America is aggressive ? because our dicks do not give us the pleasure we seek, lol...
(that and many other reasons)

now just try to masturbate being a teenager, you have to use soap or lotion, you are like "fuck i want to feel good!" it takes a very long time to figure out HOW to feel good,
it retards our sexual maturity , and it causes us to masturbate and be sexual "MORE" to the point of exhaustion because we can't quite find what we are really after yet

having no NORMAL to compare us to, we think that this deformity is "natural" and so we continue torturing babies!

fuuuuuuck!
*insert angel smile*
(well, an angel with a flaming sword...)

so lets end this already, i send this out to come back into reality, end it now.

[Talker]

Greetings All,
That your expectations are realized.

   Depending on numerous circumstances, sexual activity, can manifests in either pleasure or pain. Here, I speak not only of physical pain, but of pain or conflict at ones inner level.
   Personally, my thoughts trend along the lines that many unhappy situations in life, have root in the sex related area of ones life. Aware or not, the sexual function covers far more than is spoken about or on.
   Now, to have an unbalanced focus with our physical and spiritual nature, will greatly influence how we act it out, as we progress along the maturity scale. Ones early childhood, is also where an unbalanced focus can start. Apart from certain other factors, ones sexual orientation can have taken form at this early age (causing for some) severe conflicting emotions, in their teens. Fetish's upon reaching a (hot to trot) stage of life, can often be traced to those formative childhood years. Ones inclinations toward relationships, will be based on how their own home relationships were experinced and observed. All experience, regardless of age, are either (neatly or chaotically) tucked away deep within. Aware or not, some of those buried experiences can lead to funny, hurtful, crazy, angry or beautiful manifestations as life progress's.
   To experience the beautiful aspects of sexual activity, is only a sample of what awaits one,when through unconditional love, and the eventually passing on, takes place.
   The downside of some sexual activity, are the horrors and pain inflicted, intentional or unintentional, regardless of age.
   How these deeply rooted experiences can surface, is covered in story form in a few of my blog posts. Much more can be related here, so will do so as the spirit arrives and moves me.
   Ones health is also impacted through how sexual undertones surface, and is another story telling. Yes, The Christ spirit can be uncovered and displayed, may take time and effort though.
No, I'm not sex focused, but sex awareness is there and used. Is part of the learning curve of life and achieving balanced perspectives leading to spiritual harmony.
Be Well

http://thetalker.org/archives/65/63-why-did-i-do-that-updated-12-14-2007/

http://thetalker.org/archives/151/10-i-hear-you-talking-but-what-are-you-saying/

http://thetalker.org/archives/232/3-health-emotional-factors/

http://thetalker.org/archives/228/19-the-pit-in-the-cherry-and-the-guitar/

http://thetalker.org/archives/182/9-negative-ambiance-thinking/

[juliainkc]

Greetings All,
That your expectations are realized.

   Depending on numerous circumstances, sexual activity, can manifests in either pleasure or pain. Here, I speak not only of physical pain, but of pain or conflict at ones inner level.
   Personally, my thoughts trend along the lines that many unhappy situations in life, have root in the sex related area of ones life. Aware or not, the sexual function covers far more than is spoken about or on.
   Now, to have an unbalanced focus with our physical and spiritual nature, will greatly influence how we act it out, as we progress along the maturity scale. Ones early childhood, is also where an unbalanced focus can start. Apart from certain other factors, ones sexual orientation can have taken form at this early age (causing for some) severe conflicting emotions, in their teens. Fetish's upon reaching a (hot to trot) stage of life, can often be traced to those formative childhood years. Ones inclinations toward relationships, will be based on how their own home relationships were experinced and observed. All experience, regardless of age, are either (neatly or chaotically) tucked away deep within. Aware or not, some of those buried experiences can lead to funny, hurtful, crazy, angry or beautiful manifestations as life progress's.
   To experience the beautiful aspects of sexual activity, is only a sample of what awaits one,when through unconditional love, and the eventually passing on, takes place.
   The downside of some sexual activity, are the horrors and pain inflicted, intentional or unintentional, regardless of age.
   How these deeply rooted experiences can surface, is covered in story form in a few of my blog posts. Much more can be related here, so will do so as the spirit arrives and moves me.
   Ones health is also impacted through how sexual undertones surface, and is another story telling. Yes, The Christ spirit can be uncovered and displayed, may take time and effort though.
No, I'm not sex focused, but sex awareness is there and used. Is part of the learning curve of life and achieving balanced perspectives leading to spiritual harmony.
Be Well

http://thetalker.org/archives/65/63-why-did-i-do-that-updated-12-14-2007/

http://thetalker.org/archives/151/10-i-hear-you-talking-but-what-are-you-saying/

http://thetalker.org/archives/232/3-health-emotional-factors/

http://thetalker.org/archives/228/19-the-pit-in-the-cherry-and-the-guitar/

http://thetalker.org/archives/182/9-negative-ambiance-thinking/

HareOm, thank you for sharing. I truly InJoyed this view of the picture!!


Wow Talker!! We are vibing on the same Light rail here. Truth. I also sense that all ones imbalances can be sourced back to the first and also the second chakras.

The root, source, ideas leave not their source, they produce seed after their own kind. hmmm..sharing what brings me joy and doing what makes me happy!

I appreciate you Ancient One always,


Love to you and All in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[Awakened Soul]

Hello,

I know that there are people who think about someone else while having sex with their partner. These individuals I'm specifically referring to do not see this as 'wrong' since the partner doesn't know about it.

In my current phase of life I can't help but to see this as unethical even though in some situations it might be understandable why someone would do this and why this can be exciting.



I've also noticed a trend of certain people who go to sex parties and some of them do that without their partner knowing about it. These individuals I'm specifically referring to do not see this as 'wrong' either and say that you should just do what you want.

That latter situation really disgusts me even though I still understand the excitement. Aside from the danger of diseases and other negative side effects they could give to the unknowing partners, I just don't understand how these people can live with themselves without getting problems with their minds. I mean, in the past I kissed another girl while having a girlfriend and I really got problems with my mind (guilt) so I just had to tell my girlfriend about it (only to find out she had done the same thing but DIDN'T tell me about it).


How do you people see these matters? You think it's true that in this lifetime the trick is to keep the soul as unpolluted as possible? Do you find this harder then normal when you're dealing with sexual feelings and lust? Do you separate love and lustful sex or is your sex always without exception related to love, even in fantasies? I assume all this has consequences for the soul as well?

I admit to have lustful thoughts myself even though certain thoughts are unethical. I sometimes wonder why people get turned on by these thoughts.... is it a lack of love in their lives or doesn't that have anything to do with it? Perhaps love and lust should be in balance but is out of balance in lot's of people's minds?

In my opinion, the 'sex' subject is one of the most complex weird things that can seriously screw with my mind. What is unethical .... where do you draw the line...etc.

[Freedom]

 Hi ,

I have read somewhere that the reptilians who don't have souls are deliberately making the humans who do have souls think all sorts of things, sex is one of them, to bring them down to their level... they dont want the humans to know of their own power, so by distracting humans with 'their (reptilian)' lower level thoughts, the reptilians can keep us  humans under their (reptilians) nasty power.

The other trick they use is violence. Sex and violence is how they try to distract us from our true path.  Which is remembering who we truly are.

Just my 2 cents...

Love 

[Awakened Soul]

Hi ,

I have read somewhere that the reptilians who don't have souls are deliberately making the humans who do have souls think all sorts of things, sex is one of them, to bring them down to their level... they dont want the humans to know of their own power, so by distracting humans with 'their (reptilian)' lower level thoughts, the reptilians can keep us  humans under their (reptilians) nasty power.

The other trick they use is violence. Sex and violence is how they try to distract us from our true path.  Which is remembering who we truly are.

Just my 2 cents...

Love 

Well, I don't know how to verify any of this ofcourse, but it wouldn't surprise me indeed if we are influenced by other beings. The internet plays a major role too.

[TheBaron]

LOL, Freedom, that is definitely a theory.  

  Man has 108 earthly desires according the Buddhists.  These are temptations that run through our veins since the first man took breath.  I also find sexuality an odd thing, and I think most do, it is the struggle between our physical instincts for survival (along with a chemical compounds released by the brain that induce the 'love' feeling or the 'euphoric' feeling, some scientists would debate that love doesn't exist at all and is no more than a chemical) and our conscious.  Even the Dalai Lama has immoral thoughts, it's whether or not you act on them, and the less you act on them the less they come.

  Most people have bred and some have made love.  I think the difference is the 'emotional' and 'spiritual' attachment to the event.  I can speak from personal experience that I have done things with a woman merely to do them and afterward I could have really cared less if I had done them at all, or sometimes I'm kicking myself after.  This is due to personal morality (guilt) and what we expect out of ourselves.  People with a more awakened conscious hold themselves accountable for every action the perform where as less conscious people do not.  I would say there are a lot more less conscious than aware people to this date due to the way society raises us.

  Once again from personal experience, my wife feels like an extension of my body.  I don't feel right when I'm away from her.  I don't think twice about doing something 'odd' or 'weird' when she's in the room with me because she is a part of me.  I know that she has my best interest in mind and will unconditionally love me no matter what, and I her.  To me it is no different than the conscious to the higher self, where two minds are trying to work in harmony.

  I think this is true for sexuality as well.  (I should probably choose my words wisely here, lol) When you're no longer aware of the physical swellings and sensations of your body and your mind locks onto the feelings you have for that person and how you can show that individual how they make you feel, that I believe is the difference between breeding and sex (or making love for you ladies (kind of like how I have a mole but you have beauty marks)).  

  It is perfectly natural to feel these desires.  I still admire other women's beauty, but often times I find myself then turning to my woman and admiring her instead.  I know that for myself I would rather have a spiritual experience than many physical, and that is the price I pay for my relationship.  And, from what I've seen, people who choose the spiritual over the physical are generally happier and more intuitive beings.

  As I just explained in the post right before this, energy is attracted to us regardless of it's 'likeness' to us.  Negative energy will pollute your body over time.  That is why it's important to be conscious of your spirit and reinforce your soul with the positive feelings you wish for.  I have used this same technique for many things in my life.  When I'm driving down the street and some one rides my bumper, whips around me, and then cuts me off to turn into Taco Bell my first instinct is to smash them into that little bell sign.  However I refrain myself, and I tell myself in my mind that it's okay, I don't want to think those thoughts, I want to be a positive person.  After a while I feel less and less road rage when I experience those wonderful drivers.  Another example, I find myself judging people, as we all do.  Some chic walks by and you're like, OMG look at that poodle mullet and lime green windbreakers, doesn't she know the 80's are dead?  But I consciously catch myself and mentally 'parent' my mind so that I can be less negative and more positive.

  So long story short, my dear friend, you're not broken, you're human.  We're all human, and we all have earthly desires.  I think with anything negative the best action is to laugh about them.  Laughter is clinically proven to increase physical health and longevity (not in the sexual way  ).  If you reinforce the negative with the positive they are no longer negative.  If some one flips you off and calls you a shoe sniffing honky and you laugh at them, their negative influence no longer holds any power over you.

Much Love, Namaste, and all that stuff,
Brandon B