Femininity/Masculinity/Sexual Energy Related

[Minalora]

OH MY GOD JULIA

I was singing this song all day!!!  

You are a a a A A Amazing

So, Julia feeling a Burst of Energy and wants to dance ~

Just a hey everyone ~ come on! let's all dance, nobody's lookin' this ain't no contest ~

just an open floor, kids of all ages welcomed to do their thing and Sommer thank you for sharing this fun and upbeat song ~ sounded like this was the 'perfect' place to play it ~

InJoy All ~

Love Energy dancing as ~

Julia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT3zCj3F1d4

[juliainkc]

Laura, your sister here is looking into you with eyes of Loving adoration.

The wonders of you never cease to bring Joy!!

Thank you from my Heart to yours ~

Feeling Shakti ~

InJoy this day in Love,

Julia

[Talker]

The Pendulum of sexual activity swings between sheer ignorance to brutal lust. Proceeding from original raw instincts, to a more spiritual way is a steep learning curve, but definitely 'doable' and worthwhile.

Not to far back in time, even what is posted here in this topic, was a sure means to getting the postal authorities knocking on your door, or being booted out of ones church.  Some were at one time even jailed for thinking outside the box of 'accepted sex knowledge'.

For many the absolute beauty and poetry of sex, is never discovered.
  
A paradigm shift and evolution of consciousness is underway: but where does sex fit in? Can one tune in to this consciousness shift and still enjoy the physical and spiritual aspects?

Since Ancient times many prominent religious teachers and philosophers preached the dangers of "falling" to the temptations of carnal lust while other traditions (like Tantra) explored sex as a way to access deeper spiritual insights and understanding. In our modern world there persists this divide between sex as escapism and as a tool for exploring our connection with others and the universe.

Is it necessary to be on one side or the other, or can we learn to straddle the divide between good sweaty fun and sacrosanct ceremony:
(doable and worthwhile)

Can we utilize our bodies, minds and souls to increase the sexual pleasure we give and receive, while still fitting in to this paradigm shift and evolution of consciousness?
(doable and worthwhile)

In a world filled with sexual overtones and subliminal messages about the need to look or act a certain way in order to be sexually "normal". (who's idea of normal ) Is there an integral connection between the sacred and the sensual!

Is it possable to integrate the two into your everyday (and everynight) celebrations of love.
(doable and worthwhile)

The fundamental oneness between body and spirit is perhaps the sexiest idea out there-the celebration of our togetherness is what we enact when we make love, a togetherness that will one day be all more profound when we leave our current earthly forms.

To expand beyond a repressed understanding of sex and how to integrate the intense and loving energies that are unleashed during lovemaking should enhance ones life experiences, not create a problem and a nightmare.
 
One needs to learn how to get in touch with and accept their own unique sexual/erotic needs without guilt or judgment and be empowered to ask for what they want and to get what they need in a compassionate and productive way.
(doable and worthwhile)

A more in depth understanding of your bedside manner could be enhanced by knowledge of lovemaking systems from Tantra, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, and Shamanism with an emphasis on the importance of personal and shared consciousness expansion.
  
Ones sexuality is sacred regardless of whether you’re male or female, gay or straight. (or some remixed variation of these)
 
Feeling guilty about sex in most any form, seems to be in vogue with some. Well, I'm not 'some'. Right or not, I see one's physical body as the 'soul' in flesh. I've read that our spiritual side desired to experience the 'physical' world. Ok, but does that mean we must deliberately side step the 'nicer' parts of that experience!
    
Within the field of human sexuality/relationships/spirituality, I see the need for getting  into what is sacred about sex, and learning how the energy that fuels one can be transformed into the others, and making one more deeply aware of the powerful connection between sex and spirituality.

Would venture to say there are still women and men that have 'no clue' regards the male and female genital anatomy, and how best activated to produce 'beauty and poetry' in action. That inseparable connection between your sex life and the rest of your life, and the happy integration of body, mind, and spirit, to feel more deeply, love more consciously, and create ones own great work of art.
Of course more could be said.
Happy experiencing.
Be Well

[juliainkc]

Thank you for this excellent post Talker,

Interesting thoughts of interest for all here and worthy of deeper exploring.

I see one's physical body as the 'soul' in flesh.

Deeper we go ...

In Love and Blessings,

Be Well,

Julia

[vorith]

 "One needs to learn how to get in touch with and accept their own unique sexual/erotic needs without guilt or judgment and be empowered to ask for what they want and to get what they need in a compassionate and productive way."

 >>> What if you are ugly, poor (among rich) , skinny, neurotic, etc, and so forth (taboos)? Some folks don't get sex at all. I think this is the arena where the unfairness of it all shines forth. And this is probably why most monks and nuns etc are rather homely. Also why so much spiritual sop has be written about it. Sop for the unfairness and lack.
          Just as important what you do at orgasm. Too much spillage runs one down.
          Don't know if it's true when they say you need sex. Guess a guy has to relieve himself by whatever means. But these kinds of needs - rather unfulfilled needs - are another bane to contentment; likely due to artificial social engineering. I've read about older isolated cultures approach to sex and satisfaction. So it's again more the prison planet for corporate post industrial drones.
           

[Talker]

"One needs to learn how to get in touch with and accept their own unique sexual/erotic needs without guilt or judgment and be empowered to ask for what they want and to get what they need in a compassionate and productive way."
 >>> What if you are ugly, poor (among rich) , skinny, neurotic, etc, and so forth (taboos)? Some folks don't get sex at all. I think this is the arena where the unfairness of it all shines forth. And this is probably why most monks and nuns etc are rather homely. Also why so much spiritual sop has be written about it. Sop for the unfairness and lack.
          Just as important what you do at orgasm. Too much spillage runs one down.
          Don't know if it's true when they say you need sex. Guess a guy has to relieve himself by whatever means. But these kinds of needs - rather unfulfilled needs - are another bane to contentment; likely due to artificial social engineering. I've read about older isolated cultures approach to sex and satisfaction. So it's again more the prison planet for corporate post industrial drones.

Hello vorith and All,
Well, lets reword this:
One needs to learn how to get in touch with and accept their own unique sexual/erotic needs without guilt or judgment and be empowered to ask for what they want and to get what they need in a compassionate and productive way

To:
One needs to learn how to get in touch with and accept their own unique sexual/erotic needs without guilt or judgment and discover what they want and need in a compassionate and productive way

(What if you are ugly, poor (among rich) , skinny, neurotic, etc, and so forth (taboos)? )
Read through the conversation in these posts. Plus scattered throughout the forum are little gems that with a little bit of imagination and thought, will address all of those issues. Step out side the box of conventional thinking with a colorful flair.
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/positive-affirmations-list-t1803.0.html;msg21756#msg21756

(Some folks don't get sex at all.)
Well, I'm willing to agree with that statement. Is why there are so many people with other problems in life. The 'creative urge' is a powerful force and in the main greatly misunderstood. It's not all about just 'getting it off', it is about expressing beauty, love, and energies in multifarious ways

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/vegans-diet-raw-foods-and-health-posts-t81.0.html;msg20879#msg20879

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/our-body-cant-stand-it-t1150.0.html;msg20691#msg20691

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/connundrum-t847.0.html;msg7562#msg7562

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/-t1068.0.html;msg19809#msg19809

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/-t138.0.html;msg19475#msg19475

(I think this is the arena where the unfairness of it all shines forth.)
Some of this is covered in the above links. Plus going through the forum, more gems will show.

(And this is probably why most monks and nuns etc are rather homely. )
Sheesh, have seen some that would have been 'hot' movie money makers.
Is a life path most of these folks have deliberately choosen.

(Also why so much spiritual sop has be written about it. Sop for the unfairness and lack.)
Unfairness and lack for 'what and whom'!  Many seek selective spiritual ways and find ways to fulfill that desire. Dedication, zeal, zest, passion, lassitude, wildness, meekness, boldness, love, sports, healing, being a mother or father, and more, are part and parcel of the creative urge energy, demanding expression in some way, shape, or form. The physical sex act is only one delightful aspect of the whole creative urge process.

(Just as important what you do at orgasm. Too much spillage runs one down.)
There are ways to be in control if that is a problem, and  again must ask ' what is to much!'   Desensitization, injaculation,  are areas one can check out.

(Don't know if it's true when they say you need sex.)
Hey, even the bible is liberally laced about sex. Nothing wrong with sex being part of ones life activity. Saying that one 'need' sex, is only expressing that the creative urge is heightened and calling for an outlet of built up energies. A purely natural process, that if ignored, will lead to some type of problems.  Ah yes though, there are fine lines of distinction between ignorance-stupidity-excess-violence and real spiritual love, in coping with that creative urge.

(Guess a guy has to relieve himself by whatever means.)
Why make it gender specific!  Male or female needs, while night and day different, are or will show in various ways. Each gender needs to handle those needs according to 'what they can be comfortable with'.  Of course there are religious taboo's, parental no no's, societal no no's, regards 'proper and accepted'.
No matter the 'what', it is still that creative urge looking for expression.

(But these kinds of needs - rather unfulfilled needs - are another bane to contentment; likely due to artificial social engineering.)
The above covers this  statement. Unfulfilled needs, don't just go away, they get embedded into ones psyche, and will pop up as an irritant at some point of ones life path. Sadly, those so experiencing such problems, will have no clue, as to the original causent.

( I've read about older isolated cultures approach to sex and satisfaction.)
There is much wisdom in ancient histories, that if sensably used, be of great benefit to mankind.

(So it's again more the prison planet for corporate post industrial drones.)
Can only inquire 'if once aware, must one continue to be chained by it' .
Ah yes, so much more could be said.
Be Well

[vorith]

 I myself have never seen an attractive nun. As for the rest above thanks for your time. I think my karma is to learn to live with out it. I know about kundalini and creative energy - it is the force behind my love and improv of (black metal - yeah i know) music.

[Leo]

Hey Vorith,  There were two "Hot" nuns at the college I graduated from. (Catholic school, Avila University Kansas city MO) One taught Logic and let me tell you she was, well....she was. However we guys in the class figured that she had issues with the males. Her logic said that "all men are jerks". I told that I was a man and I wasn't a jerk. She didn't buy it. Worked hard for an A in that class.
There was also one or two at St. Joseph Hospital in KC. worked there for a couple of years. They are rare but there are a few.

[vorith]

 Yes, there are exceptions to most every rule. So in my loose leaf book, the above few don't count.
 My whole point earlier was that (in some controlled societies perhaps) there are folks who don't get it. And what about those very homely ones? That alone must mean something.

 The pop converse to the Jerk is that they tend to get the women.

 I actually never learned how to do the guy thing (flirt/date/court/seduce). Dysfunctional family etc. What would you's recommend? I've seen those courses like Dave De Angelo's. For some reason I just don't feel like bothering with it. I don't even want to date! It's just the sex drive. Plus the annoying thing where girls come on to guys. This never happens to me and even the loose women don't. Even ones with reputations (who "go down the line") don't bother with me. I'm attractive tho on the thin side. The whole thing is a very weird game from my perspective. My room mate is over 250 lbs (classic lazy slob but real nice) yet is seeing a russian who's basically a 10. I find it funny how the matrix forces me to witness the most bizarre extremes.

[Leo]

Vorith, I believe I may be a little out of my league on this one (My wife is the Dr. in the house) however based on what I know from over a half century here on the earth plane, I think I feel a bit of attitude here. I think if you don't want to date then you won't. I think it's your core belief, what you accept for yourself. I can certainly understand the sexual drive aspect. I was never much good at the mating game myself. I think the reason none of the ladies come on to you is that air of indifference that you seem to have. Your belief that it's a "weird game" puts you at a disadvantage as well. As far as the dysfunctional family is concerned, you may have some repressed anger or some belief that sex is wrong. Just looking at some things that you can perhaps think about. As I've said here a few times, change your thoughts, change your life. Truly, thoughts become things. Stop analyzing and get in the game, weird or not.
Namaste
Jake

[vorith]

 Hey that's a nice reply. I agree about the thoughts as things. Danke

[Leo]

Bitte! Just some thoughts. Hope things are well with you.
Leo