Feelings and Changing them...

[ritaj]

Dear Adrian sir,

what is/are the way of changing feelings..

transmuting them from negative to positive...

  are visualization, affirmations the only way to change feelings...  

how to consciously change the feelings ...?

how do/be that instant assumption of feeling ...?  

or transmutation of feelings... at an instant...?  


ritaj.

[ritaj]

challenging part is changing the feelings to positive whatever the external situations/circumstances suggest....



this may come through understanding-

"It follows therefore that whatever we Feel about our body or Experience must also be
true, and that our actual Experience will be in alignment with our Feelings.
 
This is still true for "positive" and "negative" Feelings, regardless of the Experience.
 
The  state  of  humanity  today  is  such  that  people  generally  have  great  difficulty  in
Feeling  Healthy,  Feeling  Wealthy,  Feeling  Secure  etc,  but  can  very  easily  Feel
negatively  about  their  body  in  some  way,  Feel  lack,  whether  it  be  money,
possession,  relationships  and  so  on,  and  this  is  the  reason  why  the  actual
Experience of such people must and does always reflect those Feelings perfectly. "
-in a newsletter by Adrian sir.
 

[LauraLoveMessenger]

Dear Ritaj


In no way I can speak for Adrian - I will share however how I can achieve a shift in feelings.

First of all it depends on the outcome desired.

If your outcome is to feel good you may have success yet that which caused to plummet will come back again and again and is a good spiritual reason for that.


For this reason I do not avoid any feelings or emotions - and here is a fine line for we need to know what we talk about.

An emotion is something that may be short  lived something coming out from thought and a body reaction to some 'thing' - whereas a feeling is a solidified emotion inside of your thoughts, it can be buried deep in your belief system. And a reason it may come back again and gain and again until you sort it.


Why I don't avoid feelings (or emotions) - for me they are evolutionary tools they serve me to know my-Self and transcend old limiting spheres of awareness.


It takes however time and practice and a lot of heartbreak or neuroses to face feelings - to embrace them to let them tell you what you need to see about yourself and then to assist in stepping above your old self who was a prisoner of those feelings.

I wrote a post here in the past (under my old use name of Minalora I don't have time to find) and it explains the Mary Go Round effect though and feelings have upon us yet for me they look more like down-spiraling twirls getting one deeper and deeper until they hit rock bottom and at that point they have 2 choices: to give in (or give up = mental diseases, depression suicide, co-dependency, falling for own desires etc etc... you get the idea) - OR at that level become suddenly aware of own state and 'ask' for divine intervention which always comes - this is a long talk about Ego used as tool for evolution though)

All in all after all this talk the key word here is in becoming aware. Then at this point use a spiritual tool to get you out of the dead end loop. This Forum has a number of related posts - search for 'prayer' ... 'golden key' mantra... Adrian posted a very good one here Om Mani Padme Hum a very excellent one ..use a friend who can uplift you ...anything really...

Eventually one comes to such a 'faith' where he understands that all there is exist only and towards own good and evolution at this point one embraces everything with joy and can see the silver lining or the 'hint' of the Light we need to perceive through  low moments or states of low feeling.



all love your way


Laura

[ritaj]

thanks Laura for informing about-

All in all after all this talk the key word here is in becoming aware. Then at this point use a spiritual tool to get you out of the dead end loop. This Forum has a number of related posts - search for 'prayer' ... 'golden key' mantra... Adrian posted a very good one here Om Mani Padme Hum a very excellent one ..use a friend who can uplift you ...anything really...

however my question is...

 you know we try using prayers, visualization,affirmations or other tools to manipulate the feelings with 'time'...
commonly known as manifestation tools...



 my question is how to be/do the feeling we wish... in the instant...

or transmutation of feeling-1 to feeling-2..



nothing related to manifestation or upliftment ....

yes you are true feelings are often confused with emotions...

[ritaj]

 what is really happening inside when we assume a feeling...

or feel the feeling we wish to feel...?

 my questions may be faulty because may be answer can not be expressed in language...


today their are procedures to visualize ,for affirmations,to pray ... a manual sort...

and by those we manipulate feelings as if feelings are some separate thing within us... false duality..
and their fore many don't experience success in it


now if we have a direct hand procedure or set of steps for

'what is really happening inside' when we assume a feeling...

or feel the feeling we wish to feel...?     

how immense potential of that text would be...

how great it would be if the people willing to change the circumstances yet involved in those circumstances get this procedure ...

no more hunger in Africa ...
no more female-abuse in Pakistan...
no more human rights violation in Myanmar ...
etc....





 

[LauraLoveMessenger]

Dear Ritaj,


Yes I understand.


Here comes where we need to work all as One. I am trusting will eventually get to that.

For now as long as you can get a grip on own feelings is good enough.

As I said each feeling is to teach you something. It is for you to find out.

A feeling is a thought that you keep thinking. ...... a thought that you keep thinking. ... a thought that you keep thinking. ... a thought that you keep thinking... a thought that you keep thinking. ... a thought that you keep thinking.

... change your thoughts.. shift into a better feeling thought ... detach... first 17 sec are the hardest ... 60 seconds and you are on your good way...  with practice and self-discipline you may achieve success...


love


Laura

[ritaj]

Laura ,
this is what we do in positive thinking and affirmations....

i was not asking this question for my self Laura...





  yes i am perfectly able to be in the feeling i wish to be...
   and experience what i wish to...





but i am not able tell the process ...or explain this 'way' to some body else...

[LauraLoveMessenger]

We can only show the way.

Is up to others to walk on it.

We must be at peace either way.

love

Laura

[ritaj]

with our discussions i realize as with breathing we cannot show how to breathe...
we can not tell how to

how to transmute the feelings...
'what is really happening inside' when we assume a feeling...
or feel the feeling we wish to feel...


may be

[Adrian]

Dear Ritaj,

I understand your question.

Laura's words are very wise - all I can do is to add my own experience and perspective.

You see - we can only ever "change" anything through our Feelings.

As I have so often said in my Newsletters:

Whatever We Feel is True - Is True

This is Absolutely my own Experience and I Know, beyond any possible doubt - That This Is True - Absolutely.

So what of affirmations, visualisations, non-consciousness invoking mantras  - i.e. "healing mantras" - and so on.

Well - this is, as we say, a "double edged sword".

Imagination, visualisations, affirmations have zero power - in and of themselves.  They are "effective" only to the extent that they invoke the "Feelings".

But here is the thing - many people I "focus" on a part of their body, for example, which they wish to be healed.  However, in the vast majority of cases I am aware of what they Feel is that this "part of the body" needs healing.  What they are invoking however is the Feeling of an imperfect "body part", the result being, they actually accelerate the ailment.

This applies to everything - wealth, success - oh you can go down the list.

Ultimately we have only one fundamental natural state - Perfection - which is All-Encompassing.

If we, for whatever reason, emphasise an "imperfection" or explicity exclude an aspect of Perfection - this will be our Experience - Absolutely.

I have serious health issues, which I have mentioned before amidst otherwise Perfect health, because I exclude the the aspect of my health that could be Perfect for reasons I will not go in to but are fully aware of and mostly know the reasons for.

Beyond this - I find myself wanting to adequately answer your question, because Feelings and Perfection are Immutable.

Let me conclude by saying this.  If you are not happy with some aspect of your Experience - just stop - and ask yourself - "How Do I Feel".

If your Feelings do not match your Experience - Change The Way You Feel.  But there is an over-riding Feeling - Perfection - Which Is All Inclusive.

Lots of Love,

Adrian.

[ritaj]

Whatever We Feel is True - Is True

This is Absolutely my own Experience and I Know, beyond any possible doubt - That This Is True - Absolutely.

very true sir this is my experience too and i don't only believe it but know it true..

their fore these questions were not for myself...

i have perfect health and all genuine needs fulfilled..


this is what I was saying...-

So what of affirmations, visualisations, non-consciousness invoking mantras  - i.e. "healing mantras" - and so on.

Well - this is, as we say, a "double edged sword".

Imagination, visualisations, affirmations have zero power - in and of themselves.  They are "effective" only to the extent that they invoke the "Feelings".

and then i was how is the way to direct hand change the feelings ....
how to explain it to others or make a procedure book of it...

i am able to transmute my feelings...but i really don't know how it happens... what happens inside the body..


and you satisfied my query-

Let me conclude by saying this.  If you are not happy with some aspect of your Experience - just stop - and ask yourself - "How Do I Feel".

If your Feelings do not match your Experience - Change The Way You Feel.  But there is an over-riding Feeling - Perfection - Which Is All Inclusive.

these four lines of yours can be shared to any one and can be easily understood by masses which believe there is some luck,or they are puppets of destiny...


these four lines i was asking for...

thank you

ritaj:)

[ritaj]

Laura,
forgive me if i have been rude in discussions..

 you know how much i love you all...

[Adrian]

Whatever We Feel is True - Is True

This is Absolutely my own Experience and I Know, beyond any possible doubt - That This Is True - Absolutely.

very true sir this is my experience too and i don't only believe it but know it true..

their fore these questions were not for myself...

i have perfect health and all genuine needs fulfilled..


this is what I was saying...-

So what of affirmations, visualisations, non-consciousness invoking mantras  - i.e. "healing mantras" - and so on.

Well - this is, as we say, a "double edged sword".

Imagination, visualisations, affirmations have zero power - in and of themselves.  They are "effective" only to the extent that they invoke the "Feelings".

and then i was how is the way to direct hand change the feelings ....
how to explain it to others or make a procedure book of it...

i am able to transmute my feelings...but i really don't know how it happens... what happens inside the body..


and you satisfied my query-

Let me conclude by saying this.  If you are not happy with some aspect of your Experience - just stop - and ask yourself - "How Do I Feel".

If your Feelings do not match your Experience - Change The Way You Feel.  But there is an over-riding Feeling - Perfection - Which Is All Inclusive.

these four lines of yours can be shared to any one and can be easily understood by masses which believe there is some luck,or they are puppets f destiny...


these four lines i was asking for...

thank you

ritaj:)

Dear Ritaj,

Yes I understand your dilemma completely - how to "explain" that which should be "explained"

I can't really add much to my last post to be honest

Of course if you have any specific issues to raise, please add them here - this is an excellent subject.

Lots of Love,

Adrian.

[ritaj]

your messages are always insightful...

 very important your messages are for humanity...

[Adrian]

your messages are always insightful...

 very important your messages are for humanity...

Thank you Dear Ritaj,

I do my best

However, "messages" are just words unless I can convey the Feeling - as we discussed earlier.  This is the greatest challenge, and one where I often fall short, sometimes because I simply have fallen short in what I must convey, and other-times due simply to the fact the "words" do not exist to convey that which I must.

All I am really saying is that my profoundest wish and intention, in all I write, is to move beyond mere words, instead to invoke the Feeling, The Inspiration, The Intuitive Knowing and Recognition that It Is All With Us All and has been all along.

At the end of the day - everyone has a different capacity, in accordance with their own place on the Path, to "their own eyes see" and "and ears to hear", but everyone does "see" and "here" in accordance with their own unique needs.

Lots of Love,

Adrian.