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« on: December 16, 2007, 15:10:00 »

When first I became aware that the bible made reference to fallen angels, my beliefs were strained on what else needs more research.  This began when I read a comment in a book ( title not recalled) that the Letter of Jude, almost was excluded from the bible. Nothing further was stated, no reason given.This had occurred while my personal bible battle was raging. So off I went looking for the "why" of it. The first inkling was in Jude :6. Than came Jude:9 and 14. This was followed by 2 Peter:4. Searching further I looked for the Enoch mentioned in Jude :14. No Book of Enoch was found. Then came Genesis 6:1-4. What was lacking now was The Book of Enoch, so off I go for a copy of it. There I find how all of the verses mentioned above, here, tie-in together. Why Jude's Letter almost did not make it into the bible. Enoch had spoke about 200 Angels that wanted a change and left their heavenly home. On earth they are now mentioned in Genesis 6:1-4. I can see now why the church wanted to ban Jude's writing and the Book of Enoch. So now I'm left with  the question, take it at face value or treat it as allegory with a hidden meaning.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 07:36:14 »

Hello Talker,

Here are the Bible passages you mentioned in your post above

Jud 1:6  And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Jud 1:9  Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee

Jud 1:14  And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Gen 6:1  And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2  That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3  And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4  There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


Some who views such passages form the Bible to point to the extraterrestrials  in our ancient past. It makes one wander…

Jude 1:14 does speech of Enoch as seventh from Adam. And this is what Genesis says of him

Gen 5:18  And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

Gen 5:21  And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
Gen 5:22  And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
Gen 5:23  And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
Gen 5:24  And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

If Enoch was indeed a Godly man and a prophet, than his pronouncements  should have been included in the Old Testament. I don’t believe this is even the case with the original Jewish version.


I was intrigued by the Book of Enoch, and found free versions on the internet

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/

Here is another version

The Book of Enoch translated from the Dead Sea Scrolls.
http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/enoch.htm]

Yet another version
http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/enoch.html

This is what Wikipedia has to say about the Book of Enoch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch
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