Eating Raw or Cooked Foods

[L Lawliet]

Hello All and to all a good day

At this moment I have nothing particular to say on this, but my reason for starting this topic is to try and understand the difference of eating cooked foods or raw foods - as far as their health benefits. From what I am getting eating cooked food of any kind is considered damaging in some way. I was told that one should never cook their vegetables or any type of produce because it kills the Enzymes inside it. Is this so with meat products and canned foods? Not every raw food can be eating raw.

Sir Hanma, I believe you mentioned something in another forum about eating canned goods that are produced related. If you want you could bring that discussion here, being that Sir Wave post is on not eating rather then eating in it of itself.

[Adrian]

Hello L Lawliet,

Hello All and to all a good day

At this moment I have nothing particular to say on this, but my reason for starting this topic is to try and understand the difference of eating cooked foods or raw foods - as far as their health benefits. From what I am getting eating cooked food of any kind is considered damaging in some way. I was told that one should never cook their vegetables or any type of produce because it kills the Enzymes inside it. Is this so with meat products and canned foods? Not every raw food can be eating raw.

Sir Hanma, I believe you mentioned something in another forum about eating canned goods that are produced related. If you want you could bring that discussion here, being that Sir Wave post is on not eating rather then eating in it of itself.

Yes - cooking food is completely unnatural, and performed only from the perspective of enjoyment - not nutrition.

Cooking meat for example only serves to conceal the fact that humans are not designed to eat meat in the first place.

Cooking plant and vegetable foods destroys much of the nutrition, including most enymes as well as anti-oxidants.

What it "boils down to" is that many people will only eat hot food.  Carrots and peas for example taste much better raw, if taste is a concern, and of course retain nutrition.  Over here there is a big campaign for people to eat there "5 per day", but then they go and cook it.

I enjoy salads but I add more substantial foods such as sweet peppers, capsicums or bell peppers, grated carrot, etc, and I then I add a lot of Olive Oil which is an exceptional source of valuable nutrients and anti-oxidants.

If you must eat your food hot or warm, then it is better to microwave it so the nutrients are not lost to the water.

Of course there are excellent food sources that cannot be eaten raw such as pulses including chick peas etc. These should be soaked overnight to make them as soft as possible, and if still not edible microwaved or if necessary lightly boiled. Pulses tend to contain other sources of nutrients that are not necessarily destroyed by cooking.

If these sort of foods do not leave you feeling "full" then eat bread with it - preferably home made. There is not much nutrition in bread but it serves its purpose as a "filler".

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Baki Hanma]

Sir Hanma, I believe you mentioned something in another forum about eating canned goods that are produced related. If you want you could bring that discussion here, being that Sir Wave post is on not eating rather then eating in it of itself.

Yea I did, and Adrian pretty much answered them before I got here

I was wondering though, is it necessary to buy canned goods. I have a host of canned veggies and beans and such - I usually cooked them but I have no reason as of yet to not cook them and eat them raw. What I was wondering thoug is since they are canned, are they already cooked? If so then there is no real reason to buy them is there?

[L Lawliet]

Alrighty then, so the best way to prepare hard foods like beans and peas and seeds is to let them just soak for a few hours or until they become hard enough to eat like that?!?

Also, from now on buying canned goods should be out of the question?

[Adrian]

Hell L Lawliet,

Alrighty then, so the best way to prepare hard foods like beans and peas and seeds is to let them just soak for a few hours or until they become hard enough to eat like that?!?

Also, from now on buying canned goods should be out of the question?

Most pulses will need to be cooked otherwise they will be too hard. I know we have talked about not cooking things, but the value of pulses is in the various chemical - in a good way - content which will not be rendered useless by cooking. I would still microwave them though. That said you can sprout pulses such as mung beans and eat them raw.

Pulses are the only exception to this purely for practical purposes.

Canned foods are good to have around as a backup, but not as a primary part of the diet.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[L Lawliet]

Hell L Lawliet,

Alrighty then, so the best way to prepare hard foods like beans and peas and seeds is to let them just soak for a few hours or until they become hard enough to eat like that?!?

Also, from now on buying canned goods should be out of the question?

Most pulses will need to be cooked otherwise they will be too hard. I know we have talked about not cooking things, but the value of pulses is in the various chemical - in a good way - content which will not be rendered useless by cooking. I would still microwave them though. That said you can sprout pulses such as mung beans and eat them raw.

Pulses are the only exception to this purely for practical purposes.

Canned foods are good to have around as a backup, but not as a primary part of the diet.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

I see, but some pulses are a bit soft like the ones found in canned chilli beans and green peas. So as long as they are not hard, I can eat them raw or at least microwave them?

[Adrian]

Hello L Lawliet,

I see, but some pulses are a bit soft like the ones found in canned chilli beans and green peas. So as long as they are not hard, I can eat them raw or at least microwave them?

Whatever you do do not eat chilli beans raw - they are extremely toxic and potentially fatal.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Baki Hanma]

Ohhhh crap you tell me now!! I have already been eating chilli beans raw, though the only thing that has ever happened to me is a bad case of gas

[Adrian]

Hello Baki Hanma,

Ohhhh crap you tell me now!! I have already been eating chilli beans raw, though the only thing that has ever happened to me is a bad case of gas

They must have been cooked and canned - believe me - if they were raw or partially cooked you would know about it very quickly. I have seen more than one case of people being violently sick after eating chilli con carne with undercooked beans. Actually raw beans might be safer than partially cooked kidney/chilli beans due to the release of toxic lectins - phytohaemagglutinin in this case.

We do have to be careful. For example rhubarb stalks are safe, but the leaves are so poiseness that before insecticides, gardenered used to crush rhubard leaves in water and spray them on their roses.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Hi Adrian, Baki & L Lawliet

That said you can sprout pulses such as mung beans and eat them raw.

But Adrian, that kills the poor little plant!

They must have been cooked and canned - believe me - if they were raw or partially cooked you would know about it very quickly. I have seen more than one case of people being violently sick after eating chilli con carne with undercooked beans. Actually raw beans might be safer than partially cooked kidney/chilli beans due to the release of toxic lectins - phytohaemagglutinin in this case.

I thought you said before that toxins do not kill people unless they believe that it will? Baki has very strong life force, he wouldn't be so easy to kill off.

L Lawliet canned foods will do you no good. buy them only if you desire them, they are not healthy.

In Lightness

[Adrian]

Hello L Lawliet,

But Adrian, that kills the poor little plant!

Yes in principle it does which is why I personally do not do it. But at the same time it can be argued that the seed pulse itself has the potential to sprout, so this is where a personal decision must be made as to where to draw the line.

chilli beans due to the release of toxic lectins - phytohaemagglutinin in this case
I thought you said before that toxins do not kill people unless they believe that it will? Baki has very strong life force, he wouldn't be so easy to kill off.

Yes this is absolutely true.

However, in these cases I think it most likely that a toxin will have an effect unless we believe otherwise and not the other way around. For example, you could be bitten by the most toxic snake in the world, but if you believed completely that it would have no effect then it would not. Most people who are bitten by a known poisness snake expect to suffer the consequences and accordingly do.

The same applies to a wide range of situations. For example it is said that the "black death" directly killed only 10% due to being infected, the other 90% dies as a result of believing they were infected and therefore must surely die.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Hi Adrian

Hello L Lawliet,

Quote from: wavepsychic on Today at 17:31:48
But Adrian, that kills the poor little plant!

Yes in principle it does which is why I personally do not do it. But at the same time it can be argued that the seed pulse itself has the potential to sprout, so this is where a personal decision must be made as to where to draw the line.

Um first of all that is not who I is, but thats OK.

We are back to this again, Me and Melody had a decision about this. I do not believe that a seed is a living thing because nothing incarnated into it yet. It CAN but if someone eats it or it doesn't find soil then the soul wouldn't care, it would find another seed. Once it sprouts then it can be "afraid" of being eaten & that is a cause for negative Karma. It can't be otherwise! I am currently preparing for Breatharianism & to do so I am eating tons of Flax Seeds as well as sun gazing. So that would mean that if I eat 100 seeds a day that is like eating 100 planets equal to 100 animals or humans?! It can not be. As Gods ourselves we can only nutrualize our power by eating our selves. Plants & animals are also aspects of God so as long as we eat them we are eating our selves & fighting our own power. Thus we should be living off the life force AS GODs from the source. However if you do not desire then do not do so. Intent is very important in this kind of eating.

In Lightness

[Adrian]

Hello Wavepsychic,

Yes I understand what you are saying, but a fertile seed, in otherwords one that can sprout and grow is really no different to one that has already sprouted.  It is like the difference between an unborn child and a born child.

But as I said before - this is for each individual to decide. We are definitely intended to eat these gatherable whole foods which is why Divine Providence supplies many times more than are required.

We were definitely not intended to eat animals. Eating an animal is no different to eating a human, a human is an animal after all, no more or less than any other, but no one would do that because they would believe to be fundamentally wrong.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Thank you Adrian

Hello Wavepsychic,

Yes I understand what you are saying, but a fertile seed, in otherwords one that can sprout and grow is really no different to one that has already sprouted.  It is like the difference between an unborn child and a born child.

But as I said before - this is for each individual to decide. We are definitely intended to eat these gatherable whole foods which is why Divine Providence supplies many times more than are required.

We were definitely not intended to eat animals. Eating an animal is no different to eating a human, a human is an animal after all, no more or less than any other, but no one would do that because they would believe to be fundamentally wrong.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

I guess Melody was right after all. However in any case I do not care anymore. I am going to be a Breatharian. IF I lose to much weight then it is back to Vegetarian. If I am to be hungry at all then I can only eat what I am in the mood for, and its not always Vegan foods.

BTW how do you feel about Fasting & Yoga at the same time?!

In Truth

[Adrian]

Hello Wavepsychic,

BTW how do you feel about Fasting & Yoga at the same time?!

It depends on how you define "Yoga".

The true meaning of Yoga is completely misunderstood in the west, where it is believed to a series of postures, exercises etc as an alternative to the gymn, health club etc. These are all just one aspect of Hatha Yoga- which in fact does not represent the true meaning of Yoga.

The true Yoga, the only Yoga mentioned in the Sutras is Kriya Yoga, which is fundamentally attunement with God, similar to Samahdi. Patanjali once defined Kriya Yoga as "self-discipline, self-study and attunement to the indwelling Reality.”

To that extent Yoga and Fasting would certainly be compatible. Fasting in and of itself can be a profound Spiritual experience for many reasons, not the least of which the bodies Energy is not wasted in the process of digestion, and there is definitely a lifting of vibration.

I would suggest juice fasting at first, providing the juice has been juiced through a worm drive type juicer to retain all of the natural nutrition and Energy.

Kind regards,

Adrian.