Eat No More

[wavepsychic]

I don't know but you need to learn how to go without eating before you can go without breathing! Just like you can't fly until you can crawl. Once you become Breatharian then hold your breath & see if you turn into light.

[Baki Hanma]

Well if I raise the  vibs of my physical body to the Etheric or astral, then I suppose I wouldn't need anything but life energy directly - no food, air, etc. But thats cheating, lol . I am talking about existing physically without these things. People can go a good while without solid food and yet shorter then that without water. People can go a few minutes without breathing, if you HOLD your breath! I can hold mines fairly long time, like about 3-4 minutes.

What I'm saying is there are reason why the physical body needs these things. What is that reason? Is it the Life Force Energy? Thats what I'm thinking . If so, why not connect directly to it and just get the goods straight from the source? The air and food themselves are useless. You expell most if not all of the air on the exhale, and you release the foods you eat as feces. Being that they are waste products, the food and air themselves cant be of any value other then the delievering of the particles we really need - which is ultimately the Life Force Energy.

[wavepsychic]

Air provides the most Life Force and it also exchanges molecules to produce carbon monoxide. I guess you can go without breathing if you breath through your skin instead, but so much for breathing under water then.

[Baki Hanma]

Though I enjoy the current phase or evolution of technology, I am in some ways against it. Most of the technology today are making people lazy and inefficient by relying to much on them.  The reason I ask such qiestions sometimes is because I really want to believe that we are, naturally capable of anyting. That we do not need any form of technology for anything. Though I believe it in my mind or head - actually feeling it is somewhat tough. I feel a sense of unsureness when it comes to things like this.

We should be able go forever without physical food for sustanence without a feeding tube. We should be able to exist or breath underwater or in outer space without any special designed suits or gagets. We should be able to do this by fully realising God within us and if not able to breath as in air then at least be able to absorb the Life Energy directly by being one with God - your divine self! We should able to do anything.

[Sethg]

Baki

Seems to me you are describing attributes of our true self. When you say "we should be able ..." the we is
our true self in human form. In a carbon body. In a box.

These things that you describe are all possible for our "divine self" and our divine self can do anything.

When we are in human form? The carbon body that is the house may not be able to astral transport or live on no food or air or etc etc. I have noticed it is a topic that you like to examine and question. It is the definition of our divine self where the difference may be and the answer to your questioning.

When we transition we leave the carbon body behind and truly become our divine self that needs no air, no food, formless, and can do all the things that you speak of that "we should be able to do"

I feel your frustration. Does this perspective help?

Seth

[wavepsychic]

Hi Seth

I feel your frustration. Does this perspective help?

Seth

As true as your words are I doubt they would help him. Baki and I are on a quest. We both need these powers, to prove to ourselves that we can do the impossible. I want to be a powerful Psychic before becoming Enlightened. These are needs of our soul, in my spiritual quest I have became willing to give up so much that I once thought i needed, but the power to reshape my body, Perform Telekinesis, have a visible Aura, these things in the Astral or beyond wont do, I want them while being a physical being. I don't know what it is about the Physical but just being able to do something no one else can do, that is something that I need. I do not care to show my Psychic powers off, as long as I know I can do them.

[Adrian]

Dear Wavepsychic,

Hi Seth

I feel your frustration. Does this perspective help?

Seth

As true as your words are I doubt they would help him. Baki and I are on a quest. We both need these powers, to prove to ourselves that we can do the impossible. I want to be a powerful Psychic before becoming Enlightened.

You would do well to meditate on why you need to prove these things.

You very often find that even people that genuinely have these these abilities, keeping in mind that 99.99% of so called "psychics" actually do not have any such abilities, become so lost in their own Ego, that it can set them back a lifetime.

It makes me sad to see people, who obviously have a high level of Spiritual knowledge set themselves up as "gurus" on the Internet and in the physical world, holding seminars and other mass meetings, dressing up to look the part etc, and before long become lost in their own drama - and they don't even see it. They enjoy playing the part and in particular their following of "devotees".

The "guru"/"devotee" relationship is an extremely unhealthy one in my view, differing little between a religion and its congregation or even a cult and the cult leader.

No person should play God.

As I said in another post - Telekinesis yes because it does bring with it some valubale lessons providing they are kept in that context. Astral projection and OBE yes - to a point - because it conclusively proves the truth of the continuity of Life after the death of the physical body - but any focus on mystical abilities will inevitably give the Ego what it wants, and true progress will suffer as a direct result.

These are needs of our soul, in my spiritual quest I have became willing to give up so much that I once thought i needed, but the power to reshape my body, Perform Telekinesis, have a visible Aura, these things in the Astral or beyond wont do, I want them while being a physical being.

While I respect your freewill to desire these things, I suggest you ask yourself first what you will achieve in doing so.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[zensunni7]

Honestly ~

I retired from teaching meditation because the people were seeing me as their ' guru ' and I did not ever find a happy medium of this feeling. It was suffocating to me.
They wanted answers from me they could only answer for themselves, and it was not why I was there.
 They wanted me to to do ' readings ' for them, join psychic fairs, and to grow it into a circus. I finally just walked away. I had no answers for myself in the situation.
There are far more ethical and practical uses for such things.

Don't misunderstand though. I could make a lot of money, and don't think for a second it is not very tempting. Poverty sucks. All here could write books saying what the latest marketing hype is pushing and make great money.
Adrian's advice is sound.

Darrell

[Baki Hanma]

Hi Seth

I feel your frustration. Does this perspective help?

Seth

As true as your words are I doubt they would help him. Baki and I are on a quest. We both need these powers, to prove to ourselves that we can do the impossible. I want to be a powerful Psychic before becoming Enlightened. These are needs of our soul, in my spiritual quest I have became willing to give up so much that I once thought i needed, but the power to reshape my body, Perform Telekinesis, have a visible Aura, these things in the Astral or beyond wont do, I want them while being a physical being. I don't know what it is about the Physical but just being able to do something no one else can do, that is something that I need. I do not care to show my Psychic powers off, as long as I know I can do them.

Though I find developing these abilities facsinating, as I grow older in wisdom I find myself not really wishing to partake in such a thing. I while back I wanted to learn or experience them all! I felt I had a good enough reason at the time - seeing is believing! I was so sick of people just saying you can do this and that without teaching or leading you in how to do it. This is why so many people dont believe in this type of stuff. If people were able to do these things out in the open more, more and more people wil become believers and understand that these so called "God Powers" aren't so supernatural as it may seem.

At the moment I am only interested in the ones that could help me in my daily life. With teleportation, I wouldn't need to drive the car especially since the gas prices has gone up !! Telekinesis can help out alot to in daily activities. Move things around the to a better or the proper location just to name one good use though I have many . Clairvoyance or Precognition to see things before they happen - potentially avoiding undesireable situations. These are the main ones I am interested in - which is Waaaayyy fewer then before. All other would just be to experience them. I dont really find Astral Projection to be a psychic ability even though I do feel I am in great need of it's benefits.

Dear Wavepsychic,

Hi Seth

I feel your frustration. Does this perspective help?

Seth

As true as your words are I doubt they would help him. Baki and I are on a quest. We both need these powers, to prove to ourselves that we can do the impossible. I want to be a powerful Psychic before becoming Enlightened.

You would do well to meditate on why you need to prove these things.

You very often find that even people that genuinely have these these abilities, keeping in mind that 99.99% of so called "psychics" actually do not have any such abilities, become so lost in their own Ego, that it can set them back a lifetime.

It makes me sad to see people, who obviously have a high level of Spiritual knowledge set themselves up as "gurus" on the Internet and in the physical world, holding seminars and other mass meetings, dressing up to look the part etc, and before long become lost in their own drama - and they don't even see it. They enjoy playing the part and in particular their following of "devotees".

The "guru"/"devotee" relationship is an extremely unhealthy one in my view, differing little between a religion and its congregation or even a cult and the cult leader.

No person should play God.

As I said in another post - Telekinesis yes because it does bring with it some valubale lessons providing they are kept in that context. Astral projection and OBE yes - to a point - because it conclusively proves the truth of the continuity of Life after the death of the physical body - but any focus on mystical abilities will inevitably give the Ego what it wants, and true progress will suffer as a direct result.

These are needs of our soul, in my spiritual quest I have became willing to give up so much that I once thought i needed, but the power to reshape my body, Perform Telekinesis, have a visible Aura, these things in the Astral or beyond wont do, I want them while being a physical being.

While I respect your freewill to desire these things, I suggest you ask yourself first what you will achieve in doing so.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

Well said , great points and all. However, sometimes you might want to choose your words a bit differently. Though I doubt you mean it this way, it sometimes sounds as if your saying that it is wrong for one to strive to exprience these things. Personally I think we should strive to experience them as much so as possible. You'll learn through experience first hand who has the better control - you or your ego. Who will pass the test? I for one tempt my ego frequantly as a means of learning to fight against it's many desires and urges. Rather then run from it I chalenge it and say "Hey look here, I am in ontrol!! This is my body and I do what I feel - not what you want". Lol, sometimes my ego can seem as another person tempting to steer me in it's own direction.

[wavepsychic]

HI Adrian,

When I say Psychic I do not mean I want to give readings over the internet!

As I said in another post - Telekinesis yes because it does bring with it some valubale lessons providing they are kept in that context. Astral projection and OBE yes - to a point - because it conclusively proves the truth of the continuity of Life after the death of the physical body

Those are the powers I want! I want to have control over myself, physically, Mentally & Spiritually. I want Telekinesis, Astral Projection, & the ability to look how I want to look. It is also extremely important to me to become a psychic healer so I can heal people & myself. I will not Meditate on why I want these, I am to busy Meditating to learn these powers. What is wrong with projecting for these powers?

If I can not look how I want to look in this life then I will then have to reincarnate to experience my ideal body, that means I wont be enlightened!

[Sethg]

Baki and Wavepsychic

Did you notice how many times in the last two posts that you said "I"

Seems that Adrian was asking why there is a need to prove or perform these things. Is it ego?
Is it the "I"

"any focus on mystical abilities will inevitably give the Ego what it wants"

"I suggest you ask yourself first what you will achieve in doing so."

Seth

[Adrian]

Hello Wavepsychic,

When I say Psychic I do not mean I want to give readings over the internet![/color]

Yes I realise that - it was not what I was implying.

Those are the powers I want! I want to have control over myself, physically, Mentally & Spiritually. I want Telekinesis, Astral Projection, & the ability to look how I want to look. It is also extremely important to me to become a psychic healer so I can heal people & myself. I will not Meditate on why I want these, I am to busy Meditating to learn these powers. What is wrong with projecting for these powers?
If I can not look how I want to look in this life then I will then have to reincarnate to experience my ideal body, that means I wont be enlightened![/color]

Hmmm... Quite an assortment of reasons there

Only you can decide what your priorities are - that is why we have freewill after all.

I would say that healing has nothing to do with psychic powers as such.  All healing comes from within. It is honourable to wish to heal others of course.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[barretina]

I found this article on Breatherianism.

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/breathe_light/foodchoices.html

It talks about what we eat & why we eat it. We eat different things depending on how we feel inside. I do not know if the Arther knows about the law of correspondence. In conclusion she talks about using that law to manifest everything that we need without eating.

In Lightness

That was truly fascinating. Thanks.

[barretina]

If I can not look how I want to look in this life then I will then have to reincarnate to experience my ideal body, that means I wont be enlightened![/color]
[/quote]

This seems to be a big issue with you, about how you look- as someone who has always been quite happy or not too insecure about my own looks, I can't really relate- however I know a woman who every time I see her (Maybe once every 3 months) looks completely different.

Her hair can grow from short to long in just a few months- mine would take years, and her features just completely change. Unfortunately I don't know her well enough to ask- (she is the girlfriend of a friend's friend) and I expect she doesn't even know she is doing it, as she has never struck me to be a person interested in this sort of thing.

I will try to discover more- but I guess it must be possible! 

[wavepsychic]

Did you notice how many times in the last two posts that you said "I"

Looking back I see now, YES I saw that I said "I" a lot. I don't really care. So the Ego is bad eh? how bad is it? If a fat chick were to tell you that she wants to give up all animal products & Dairy to look younger & achieve her ideal weight what would you say to her Seth? Would you say NO you're just giving your ego what it wants by loosing weight even if you are saving animals lives? You do not understand that it is because of my desire for these things that I am even here at all. So what if I want power, my quest for it made me a better person. Adrian teaches stuff like the Law of Attraction, he said you could basically control everything in your life! That is awesome to have that much power, of course every one is responsible for there own actions but there is nothing wrong with power to control your life. There is nothing wrong with having psychic powers.

I will try to discover more- but I guess it must be possible!

I am completely sure that it is! Please discover more about her my dear.