Eat No More

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Blessing one's food and expressing gratitude for it to the Source - God is not this an expression of Love? What other true meaning could there really be than Love and Gratitude, the highest vibrations?

I know that some people recite the grace mechanically, but if they stop and think of it, they know that this is gratitude and appreciation, and the expression of Love for God - the Source.

Could you please elaborate what other meaning is there beyond that?

Blessing food and expressing gratitude for it is fine.

I was referring to the idea that the bread and wine represents the body and blood of Jesus - it came from "the last supper".

The esoteric or occult meaning of the ritual of the eucharist is designed to be transformational and is not restricted to bread and wine but all food and drink at every meal.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Sethg]

wavepsychic

Is it possible that you are "trying" too hard? Are you fighting and resisting? I have been hearing your words like "I'm sick of it" or "I want to be done with taste for good" (sorry I don't know how to use the quote thing)

When you stamp the concept of eating with a judgment of it being bad or placing it in an adversarial role the universe will mirror it back to you and it will become a "fight"

Co-creation is done with ease. With flow. With harmony. Without judgment. The old way is to fight. The new way is to allow it to be what it is, know that it was there for a purpose and know that it's purpose may have already been served. It will then harmonize with your being and become much easier for you to create what you desire. If you truly desire to not eat and can overcome the ingrained consciousness that we "need" food to survive then it will smoothly manifest for you. If you feel you may, as you say, "destroy"
something in the process then you probably will.

If you are looking for exercises or the "magic pill" outside of yourself it may not be there. The same can hold for anything that you truly desire. 

If we believe we need food or sun or ether or air to live then we will. Using the word believe or belief is a limitation in itself.

I loved this quote from Adrian:

"You will gain much more Energy, because the body does not expend Energy in processing solid food.

It will also condition your Subconscious Mind not to expect food.

These things might sound tough, but the fact is to make progress it is necessary to break human conditioning and move towards a "higher" way of living - these are all part of the challenges we face on Earth in theprocess of evolution."

Where does the hunger come from? Is it the body or is it the mind? The concept of feeding our bodies is the same as any programmed "belief" that we have lived with for centuries. The feeling of hunger is the same as any feeling. It's like pain. If you examine it when it happens and allow it to be and love it as you love all things then the affect that it used to have will melt away because you recognize it for what it truly is, the experiences of the former wavepsychic.

"The process of evolution" Yes... nothing is untouchable. Every aspect of our past conditioning is up for examination. Even and especially the action of feeding.

We are already full. Full of spirit.

[wavepsychic]

Hi Seth, between you and Adrian the chat room just fills with light!

Is it possible that you are "trying" too hard? Are you fighting and resisting? I have been hearing your words like "I'm sick of it" or "I want to be done with taste for good" (sorry I don't know how to use the quote thing)

You sound like me. I didn't know how to do quotes the first few times I was on this bored. It is easy, look up above the last smiley & see the # thingy. Just click that yellow icon right after it, copy and past what you want to quote in there.

Anyway YES I am trying to hard. Eating is a upward battle for me. I am picky, and emotional. When I get hungry I am in the mood for something & have not the motivation for anything else. When I do try to be a vegan I end up eating the same things over and over again. Like Subway, or berries. I honestly do not want to spend the money on it, waste the gas getting it, or need it at all! I want to be so detached that I can just walk away from "Society" and live in perfect balance with Nature. Then I will be healthy enough to walk back & meet people. But not need anything from Society. I just don't want hunger or taste. I want to be as detached as Buddha, & not a slave to taste, good, bad or neutral.

Where does the hunger come from? Is it the body or is it the mind? The concept of feeding our bodies is the same as any programmed "belief" that we have lived with for centuries. The feeling of hunger is the same as any feeling. It's like pain. If you examine it when it happens and allow it to be and love it as you love all things then the affect that it used to have will melt away because you recognize it for what it truly is, the experiences of the former wavepsychic.

I think you are on to something there. I am going to try that, but I still need to eat something! I want that something to be Universal Life Force. I would love to know a Meditation or Energy exercise that I can practice diligently to ward off hungry. In my mind hungry means that there is something wrong with the body. If you feed it life force directly then It shouldn't get hungry. I am going to try this not eating thing but if I get to hungry I'll eat. I am going on a fast while telling my body I want to be more masculine. If I loss weight while not eating instead of gaining then I'll stop.

We are already full. Full of spirit.

Thanks for reminding me that & the best way is to just let it be that way.

In Lightness

[Baki Hanma]

Wave, have you ever tried impregnating your food with vital energy? I have made quite the use of the Star Exercise along with my chi kung practices. I have impregnated water with vital energy by having the Life Force come it through my left hand and exiting my right palm while hovering my right palm over the glass of water. I sometime will take the glass of water. You can do this with food to! I reckon if the vital energy can cure the human body of all diseas then it should have a cleaning effect on the food as well or at least add healing properties for health.

Adrian told L that he doesn't go through to much trouble cleaning his fruits and vegetables - he simply dont believe that the ill chemicals in the food will hurt him and so it doesn't. I'm not too sure of your problem with eating but I see no reason to give up food entirely. It is always a good idea to take advantage of your enviroment as best yu can. If you were ever in a case were you would have to go days without food then I understand that it would require great discipline to overcome the urges and cravings, but as long as you can eat you should.

[melody]

Blessing food and expressing gratitude for it is fine.

I was referring to the idea that the bread and wine represents the body and blood of Jesus - it came from "the last supper".

The esoteric or occult meaning of the ritual of the eucharist is designed to be transformational and is not restricted to bread and wine but all food and drink at every meal.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

Hello Adrian,

Are not the blessing of the food and expressing of gratitude and the vibrations that go with it "transformational" and affecting the food and drink when it is done at every meal?

Are not there rituals or practicing in the occult where blood and flesh are used for transformational and even sacrificial purposes? It is claimed that 911 was such an occult mass ritualistic, sacrificial even. In occult the blood and flesh of animals and apparently even people is used as an offering to demigods to be transformed -"saved", and also to appease and satisfy those demigods. In Christianity, Christ offers his own blood and flesh to people for them to be saved. After Jesus' crucification, the Jewish ritual of sacrificing a lamb has ceasedon on its own, though they speak in Israel of restarting it again.

[Baki Hanma]

If you really want to do something valuable then I suggest a juice diet. For a week only drink organic juices - that is to say juiced fruits, vegetables etc that you juice yourself, and no food at all.

I have done juice diets for up to 6 weeks at a time, but that might be a bit much for some.

You will gain much more Energy, because thebody does not expend Energy in processing solid food.

It will also condition your Subconscious Mind not to expect food.

These things might sound tough, but the fact is to make progress it is necessary to break human conditioning and move towards a "higher" way of living - these are all part of the challenges we face on Earth in theprocess of evolution.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

How do you do it, the juice diet thing? Do you drink 8 ounce glasses several times a day? If so how many times is necessary to drink juice a day in place of food?

[Adrian]

Hello Baki Hanma,

How do you do it, the juice diet thing? Do you drink 8 ounce glasses several times a day? If so how many times is necessary to drink juice a day in place of food?

It depends on what you are juicing, but juice extracted from a worm drive juicer, juicing something like wheat grass has very high Energy content and one glass per day might be enough, although in practice you would probably drink three glasses per day of various juiced ingredients.

You need to be aware however of two main factors:

1. You are not consuming juice for gratifying the sense of taste
2. You will feel hungry until you can program your Subconscious Mind to overcome hunger

A juice diet can also be permanent, and after a few weeks of benefits to some people it becomes permanent.

One of the main reasons for being here on Earth is to transcend the need for physical pleasures of the senses, and taste is one of the most difficult to forego.

The question you need to ask yourself is whether you wish to remain a slave to the physical world of sensations and false pleasures, or whether you wish to transcend this maya in order to progress at every level - body, Soul and Spirit.

Those who transition to the Astral Plane and remain there after "death" have not yet transcended material desires. Our true home is are the realms of Spirit, beyond all concept of form and material pleasures.

There is a well known saying - "You are what you eat" and while that is only part of the equation, it is nevertheless an important part.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Baki Hanma]

Hello Baki Hanma,

How do you do it, the juice diet thing? Do you drink 8 ounce glasses several times a day? If so how many times is necessary to drink juice a day in place of food?

It depends on what you are juicing, but juice extracted from a worm drive juicer, juicing something like wheat grass has very high Energy content and one glass per day might be enough, although in practice you would probably drink three glasses per day of various juiced ingredients.

You need to be aware however of two main factors:

1. You are not consuming juice for gratifying the sense of taste
2. You will feel hungry until you can program your Subconscious Mind to overcome hunger

A juice diet can also be permanent, and after a few weeks of benefits to some people it becomes permanent.

One of the main reasons for being here on Earth is to transcend the need for physical pleasures of the senses, and taste is one of the most difficult to forego.

The question you need to ask yourself is whether you wish to remain a slave to the physical world of sensations and false pleasures, or whether you wish to transcend this maya in order to progress at every level - body, Soul and Spirit.

Those who transition to the Astral Plane and remain there after "death" have not yet transcended material desires. Our true home is are the realms of Spirit, beyond all concept of form and material pleasures.

There is a well known saying - "You are what you eat" and while that is only part of the equation, it is nevertheless an important part.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

Understood. What type of juicer is best for this type of diet? I see alot of expensive ones on the net and tv - but I dont want to pay too much money, but I will if I have to . I remember you wrote earlier that heat can destroy the enzymes so I dont what one that generates too much heat. What type do you use? - if you dont mind telling

The question you need to ask yourself is whether you wish to remain a slave to the physical world of sensations and false pleasures, or whether you wish to transcend this maya in order to progress at every level - body, Soul and Spirit.

This is not an easy question to deal with for most people - especially one with limited understanding. I for one do care about my senses and don't really like the idea of considering me a slave to them. Achieving Samahi - bliss has an effect on the senses thats why it feels so good. Why would one want to rid themselves of them? I much rather remain in control and in command of them rather then have them command me.

[Adrian]

Hello Baki Hanma,

[Understood. What type of juicer is best for this type of diet? I see alot of expensive ones on the net and tv - but I dont want to pay too much money, but I will if I have to . I remember you wrote earlier that heat can destroy the enzymes so I dont what one that generates too much heat. What type do you use? - if you dont mind telling

An excellent starting juicer that will serve the purpose very well is the Samson GB-9001. If you do a Google search you will find plenty.

This is not an easy question to deal with for most people - especially one with limited understanding. I for one do care about my senses and don't really like the idea of considering me a slave to them. Achieving Samahi - bliss has an effect on the senses thats why it feels so good. Why would one want to rid themselves of them? I much rather remain in control and in command of them rather then have them command me.

Achieving inner bliss and Oneness has absolutely nothing to do with the physical senses. The physical senses are hopelessly incapable of producing feelings even remotely approaching these states.  It is of the Mind.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Baki Hanma]

Hello Baki Hanma,

[Understood. What type of juicer is best for this type of diet? I see alot of expensive ones on the net and tv - but I dont want to pay too much money, but I will if I have to . I remember you wrote earlier that heat can destroy the enzymes so I dont what one that generates too much heat. What type do you use? - if you dont mind telling

An excellent starting juicer that will serve the purpose very well is the Samson GB-9001. If you do a Google search you will find plenty.

Ok I will, thanks

This is not an easy question to deal with for most people - especially one with limited understanding. I for one do care about my senses and don't really like the idea of considering me a slave to them. Achieving Samahi - bliss has an effect on the senses thats why it feels so good. Why would one want to rid themselves of them? I much rather remain in control and in command of them rather then have them command me.

Achieving inner bliss and Oneness has absolutely nothing to do with the physical senses. The physical senses are hopelessly incapable of producing feelings even remotely approaching these states.  It is of the Mind.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

My bad I wrote that  wrong. I almost forgot that the emotions are not the same as the senses

[L Lawliet]

Hello Baki Hanma,

[Understood. What type of juicer is best for this type of diet? I see alot of expensive ones on the net and tv - but I dont want to pay too much money, but I will if I have to . I remember you wrote earlier that heat can destroy the enzymes so I dont what one that generates too much heat. What type do you use? - if you dont mind telling

An excellent starting juicer that will serve the purpose very well is the Samson GB-9001. If you do a Google search you will find plenty.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

What about the Power Juicer? Is that ok, cause that's what I got and cheaper. That one your talking about cost nearly 200 dollars Sir.

[Adrian]

Hello L Lawliet,

What about the Power Juicer? Is that ok, cause that's what I got and cheaper. That one your talking about cost nearly 200 dollars Sir.

Worm driver or "auger" juicers cost more because they are precision devices. They are very heavy.

The commercial worm drive juicers cost thousands.

The Samson is an entry level juicer. It is slow and you have to feed whatever you are juicing into a narrow hopper and push it down on to the auger with the rod provided.

I am not familiar with the Power Juicer, but the important thing is to keep the speed down so it doesn't generate heat.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[wavepsychic]

Hi Baki

Wave, have you ever tried impregnating your food with vital energy?

I assume by impregnating you mean magnetising. I do that to water with my mind by imagining it radiating with bright white energy. I don't understand why you people would spend hundreds on juicers, thousands on shipped fruits, & spend time eating foods. Why can we not just get our substance from the all mighty source thy self? We receive out consciousness from it directly, we are it in human form. I believe it will do all of our Chakras the most good to just stop eating & bless ourselves with the white light of the holy ghost.

I am not telling others that they have to stop eating. I am fasting just for today & when I do stop eating if I lose weight then I will start eating again. I however do believe that all food is a drug that distracts us from Spirit.

My big problem with eating is that If I do eat then I am going to want to eat what I am in the mood for. If you do an all Juice Diet would you still feel very hungry?! If that is so then you could be living off of light but the feeling of hungry tricks us spiritual ones, thus we eat and block the vital life force because we put dirt into our bodies. We are what we eat, if we eat of the earth then we are of the earth. If we eat of the heavens then we are of the heaves. You all believe that people can teleport. I however don't see anyone who needs to eat to survive teleporting.

In Lightness

[melody]

Achieving inner bliss and Oneness has absolutely nothing to do with the physical senses. The physical senses are hopelessly incapable of producing feelings even remotely approaching these states.  It is of the Mind.

Hello Adrian,

Does that mean that one never again needs to have any intimate relationship because all the bliss and Oneness can be found inside oneself, inside one's Mind and no intimate relationship or companionship could ever possibly compare or bring the same type of satiation and satisfaction and closeness, and oneness as one's own mind can? in meditation? Why bother relating to other people or partners at all? Such relationship are an illusion anyways, and the other person, the partner, is also an illusion being external to oneself.

For that matter even this forum is an illusion, it does not really exist, it is virtual and we only keep it with our minds. You also might only be an external virtual illusion, especially since no one of us (except maybe for Nick - the moderator, or some of your neighbours if they are members of this forum) has ever seen you.

One never really needs to do anything but plunge inside one's mind to feel bliss and happiness. External circumstances and people are really just a detraction from it...? Or is that so?   

[wavepsychic]

Hi Mel, I know you want Adrian but I can not resist.

Does that mean that one never again needs to have any intimate relationship because all the bliss and Oneness can be found inside oneself, inside one's Mind and no intimate relationship or companionship could ever possibly compare or bring the same type of satiation and satisfaction and closeness, and oneness as one's own mind can? in meditation? Why bother relating to other people or partners at all? Such relationship are an illusion anyways, and the other person, the partner, is also an illusion being external to oneself.

Enlightened ones do not seek out mates like, Monks, Nones, ect. OK maybe Nones aren't enlightened.

Bliss is better because wanting a mate is just for a temporary contentment. Must we have mates in all of our lives? Nonsense.

People are disconnected with the Source so we have a yearning for others, who are Source incarnated. Some don't want love from someone but instead only want to satisfy there Lust. Compared to the bliss of being pure spirit neither wanting attention from a lover or wanting sex because of Lust is better then the other. The Enlightened one desires not to possess others.

The people are illusions but there spirits are not.

For that matter even this forum is an illusion, it does not really exist, it is virtual and we only keep it with our minds. You also might only be an external virtual illusion, especially since no one of us (except maybe for Nick - the moderator, or some of your neighbours if they are members of this forum) has ever seen you.

Waoh There. lol, it is just lights on a computer screen made by intelligent design. If everyone stops coming here it wouldn't exist anymore. Adrian is a Spiritual Being with a Spiritual Message of which both are very real. In Buddhism it is very important to know the Real as the Real and the Unreal as the Unreal. Those of believe the Unreal to be Real and the Real to be Unreal are stuck down by Mara.

One never really needs to do anything but plunge inside one's mind to feel bliss and happiness. External circumstances and people are really just a detraction from it...? Or is that so?

If you can be happy with nothing, that is bliss. Not happy because of this or because of that, but happy for REAL.

In Lightness