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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2008, 11:16:22 »



Melody. although you seem extremely intelligent, well read and ready for any arena, your insistence to return all to the Bible bringing as many converts as you can leaves me in dismay.


It is sad to see that when somebody is on a personal discovery of the Bible, as I am, and talks about the Bible, and quotes from it, and posts the personal perceptions and understandings one came up with vis-à-vis the Bible, that such a person is immediately perceived as being on a personal crusade to convert others.

My only intention is to search for my own personal truth, and to discover what resonates with me. For that I have to examine different ways of looking at Truth, various scenarios of what others consider as being Truth, and this forum offers a great playground for me in that respect.

Darrell, you are a grown up man with your own mind, and in no way would I wish to convert you. Though I care about you -  as much I care about any human being unknown to me - I respect your free will to choose to believe what you wish. What you believe should not feel threatened in any way if a different point of view is posted in this forum.

As I said, my participation in this forum is solely to discover what I wish to believe in view of various points of views presented to the public outside and at this forum. This is why I appreciate when people post their responses to my posts which make me think.

I am flattered that you think I do this to “convert” others, which would imply I am really very caring for others since they would then be my primary concern…   smiley

Morover, if Adrian did not wish that Bible or any religious concept were to be discussed in this forum, he would not have created the special  Religions and Tradition Forum. I believe there is a reason why he created it.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2008, 11:33:15 »

Greeting Melody,

No offense intended - none taken here. I am glad to hear you care, I feel we all here care very much.
I do not dispel the Bibles value at all, nor your personal journey with it. God seep as they say. It just always seem to come to battles - politely called debates whenever the Bible appears here.
But I respect your right and love of the Human race.
I too care about you.

WithIn Love
Darrell
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2008, 11:57:06 »


I guess the debates occur because people had some previous personal battles, and it touches them at the spot of those past battles. On the other hand, it is really a small handful of people who participate in these debates, whereas there many more members in the forum. They seems to be more levelheaded about these matters since neither biblical discussions nor metaphysical or paranormal ones seem to pertub them enough to join in the discussions.   smiley
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2008, 12:18:14 »

Dear Darrell, Melody and All, smiley

There has been an ongoing discussion sometimes leading to debates regarding these things and I as both a participant and an observer in these discussions wish to share with you and all here.

Sometimes personality gets confused with Unconditional Love. I understand that it has been stated here that this forum is perhaps not based on this Love, I differ on this thought.

It is from this foundation that we can have these discussions albeit passionately (our personalities expressing) at times while the underlying foundation is based on this very Unconditional Love.

A Looking past the personality differences and seeing One as One with One. Just having the same experience in this time continuum at a different moment.

It doesn't mean we will always like what is being said, but like aside, would I if I saw you in a circumstance do as the Pharisees did and walk by and not touch the 'unclean' thing? A life lived by intellectual knowledge of rules and laws but Heart Living completely removed?

Or would I lay aside all differences of opinions and collective approvals, standards raised by ones who cannot possibly attain it themselves no less have it within to give but are so willing to distract from their own inability to do so and put it upon all others to do what they cannot do without the Intimate Knowing and Being One with the All Loving Nature in each of us? Do I see you as me and pick you up and do whatever it takes to see that all is well for your benefit and not seeking a reward?

I see the response here from you Melody and I appreciate your genuineness and honesty. I will say this is the first time I have 'seen' this side of your nature expressed in this forum in this Spirit. I hear you. This is the you I have spoken to even though it may not always 'seem' to be this way.

There are those of us who have walked the path you are rightfully on and as Darrell shared so Heart openly, we have wept when we realized that we were fooling ourselves by believing someone else's claim to knowing 'God' to have been bought and sold into slavery that was never our State to Be in.

It takes awhile for the hunger and thirsting of going through the menu before it hits the digestive system and begins to nourish the Life giving blood of sustenance allowing us to recognize that the Source of Life already flows within our veins. We are God Breathed. We go from hunger and appetite to being constantly nourished and supplied. We do not need to seek it any longer because once it sinks in, we're home. That's all that is being shared here with you and all others.

It is by Divine Intimate Agreement. When the appointed time comes. Nothing is for naught. It is all apart of this experience which leads all of us to this understanding.

You are being supported here Melody and Darrell I support what you are sharing because I do understand from what you are sharing here having once been as I in Melody's position. That's all.

I do understand the search for one's personal truth. Truly Melody, and you are blessed to have this forum to play and discover for yourself what this is as we are also blessed to continue to evolve and grow in our own personal truth.

The opposite of conditional Love is fear. Unconditional Love has no opposites because it is all encompassing. This is the basis of where I am coming from when I share this with you because no matter how much I may seem to disagree with you at times or others, it does not remove my acceptance of you as a Child of the Most High.

I felt this flowing and I just showed up to share this with you all WithIn Unconditional Love that is streaming straight through to you all.

Love WithIn Divine Spirit, InJoy this day in Peace,

Julia
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2008, 10:51:51 »

Demons ? Angel's in mask chasing us home again.

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2008, 18:39:12 »

Dear Melody,


Morover, if Adrian did not wish that Bible or any religious concept were to be discussed in this forum, he would not have created the special Religions and Tradition Forum. I believe there is a reason why he created it.


I created this board in the forum originally to discuss all of the religions and traditions of the world.

We must recognise the fact however that over 1 billion people in the world today subscribe to Christianity as a system of belief, a good many more following Islam and Judaism and other orthodox religions.

My own use of the Bible, in which I reveal the inner meanings, is not due to any sort of reliance on the Bible as an authoritative Source, nothwithstanding the fact there is great wisdom contained therein, but rather because the Bible represents a common ground upon which a large proportion of the population can be approached.

I am equally happy to quote from any religious source if appropriate - all religions contain a common thread of truth.

Whilst I do not approve of evangelising in these forums, I am sure that is not your intent.

If you were to make a simple adjustment in your approach I am sure you would find life much easier.

Instead of starting with the Bible and then seeing how the Universe agrees with it, you might consider starting with the Universe and seeing how the Bible agrees with it.

I had this discussion with a Catholic Monk who emailed me some time ago, after my newsletter that included my comments on The Da Vinci Code, and he was definitely much happier afterwards.  Whether he is still a monk or not I do not know, but I wish him well, because it must have taken massive courage as a person with a life vocation revolving around the doctrines of the Church to actually expand his thinking in those terms.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 10:12:23 »

Greetings to All,

I have a few priests and monks as friends also. It makes for very interesting talks to say the least in spiritual matters. Often it feels as though we have tripped back into time, entering that space of no time.
I think the release of Mother Theresa's  letters regarding her doubts was a great thing for people to know about this Sainted woman, although it was against her wishes, I feel if she did want them known she would have destroyed them.
Doubts, debates, even war are religious traditions and a part of their history. It has become the plague of its own doing, yet it goes on and on, and will most likely until Humanity has evolved into a complete unrecognizable species from what we know at present. Her doubts revealed the true depth of her courage.

But what matters to me, keeps me writing here and keeps me going is the thread that has been present throughout Human history, the one that has led us to this forum, to this new understanding we have about little old - us.
We have evolved along a thin cord amidst all the war, sufferings, and atrocity. SO we shall survive these little disagreements and embrace one another as we have across all of time. Love is the most powerful force in the Universe, and it has won out over all other forces regardless of the carnage left on the fields of life. It is the constant, the unbroken road to the future, never had its flame ceased even in the darkest night of history.
I stopped seeking God long ago, it is what it is, and I do not need to know the specifics of it all to be one with it. To hold out my heart from the experience of it all is like the boy standing at the door of the one he loves, feet shuffling, palms clammy, reaching for the door bell a thousand times.
If the Bible brings your heart to the experience, the embrace we may feel within that changes us totally in that embrace, because it is an embrace we will never leave. If reading a pamphlet in the airport causes you to allow the desire to well within until nothing else seems real, then so be it.
But I know this - Being Human is both a blessing and an honor in this Universe.
I know that we are designed for this embrace and experience even above the Angels, as it is written in so many texts. Calculate the odds of being born Human in the countless billions of lifeforms on this planet, and in the Universe of all creation.
You cannot in one lifetime with the most powerful computer.
It is a statement of grandeur by design and desire of the One that devised this thing we call life. This is what we find so hard to accept, to embrace, to experience.
Yet we are all here because the voice will not ever cease calling us, the love will not leave us at peace until we join with it.


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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 12:31:29 »

Dear Darrell,

But I know this - Being Human is both a blessing and an honor in this Universe.
I know that we are designed for this embrace and experience even above the Angels, as it is written in so many texts. Calculate the odds of being born Human in the countless billions of lifeforms on this planet, and in the Universe of all creation.
You cannot in one lifetime with the most powerful computer.
It is a statement of grandeur by design and desire of the One that devised this thing we call life. This is what we find so hard to accept, to embrace, to experience.
Yet we are all here because the voice will not ever cease calling us, the love will not leave us at peace until we join with it.

WithIn Love

Darrell

Amen to that.

Although many people alas believe life on Earth as a human is all about suffering, they have no idea of the glory of the decision made by their Higher Self, of Divine Freewill, and the untold, incomprehensible rewards it will bring in due course.

Life is only suffering if it is perceived as such.

I have experienced events in my life that would, quite honestly floor most people never to stand up again, including a very near death experience a few years ago.

At the time I took refuge in God while meditating on the lessons to be learned. Looking back over this life it all makes perfect sense and all contributed to who and where I am today.

Those who seek to blame others for their "misfortune" or ascribe it to such erroneous but typically human notions as "luck", "fortune" or "chance" are failing to realise and learn great lessons - lessons if not learned in this incarnation will need to be learned in another before the Higher Self can evolve to greater and more glorious things as a co-creator with God.

Any perceived suffering in this life is trivial compared to other lives for example back in the stone age, or the dark ages, in medieval times, yet all experience is necessary without which there could be no progress.

Countless Higher Selves choose not to subject themselves to these experiences, and accordingly, although they will eventually evolve, their path is a long one by comparison.

For every experience, however dire it may seem, we should sit down and ask ourselves what thoughts gave rise to the experience and what is to be learned from it.

I know one thing - if I could have this life all over again, I would not change a thing because it is always perfect.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.






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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 09:44:08 »



If the Bible brings your heart to the experience, the embrace we may feel within that changes us totally in that embrace, because it is an embrace we will never leave. If reading a pamphlet in the airport causes you to allow the desire to well within until nothing else seems real, then so be it.
 

Hello Zensunni7,

Thank you for recognizing and acknowledging this.
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2008, 06:35:42 »


If you want to know in detail how negative entities work, get the book 'Practical Psychic Self-Defense', by Robert Bruce. He actually works in this field instead of just talking about this or that. He does write that true demonic possessions are rare because true demons don't usually interfere with humans directly, according to him. I guess that's similar to angels that supposedly don't directly interfere with humans either. Perhaps you shouldn't buy the book if you don't need it. But if you are eager to make statements, then I think it's worth buying anyway.

Adrian's book also mentions dark influences and even how to imagine a shield around you. That seems to be an acknowledgement of the existence of dark, negative influences to me. He also wrote in a topic about these influences trying to keep you from having a succesful astral projection just before the moment of projection (flashes, annoying noises, etc.).

Also, there should be a counterpart for everything good in the universe, right? Why don't you believe that demons exist when you do believe angels exist whom we are supposed to 'outrank'? Seriously, some of you just don't make sense to me. It's all extremely contradicting.


I own this previously mentioned 'Practical Psychic Self-Defense' book, and it's extremely interesting read, full of cases that back up the theories instead of stating things as fact without any backup. Ofcourse, what you believe is your choice, but I know I'll never say that something doesn't exist when I don't know for sure.

There's also an example given in the book how young babies of just a few months old are attacked by negative entities, negs for short, and how Bruce helped them. He also asks how a young baby like that could ever think in such a way to attract these negs. 'Karma' and Law Of Attraction, some will say, and that they shouldn't be helped, because it's their own fault and it's their 'karma' to suffer from these attacks. I'm sorry, but that way of reasoning sounds ridiculous to me. And as Bruce states, it could also be the karma of these babies to receive HELP from him, right? So who are you people to say anything about a situation like that and state things as fact? Do you work in this field? Have you helped numerous people who were under attack? If not, then I rather listen to someone who seems to have hands on experience.

There's so much interesting information in that book, like how negs usually can't cross running water, and it explains in detail how ghosts can become trapped in houses, and how negs work exactly (in detail) to mess with your mind and how to recognize that and undo it.

I'm telling you, I'm reading this book and I'm coming across examples of things that I've experienced myself and it's great to see someone writing a book that actually knows what he's talking about instead of only being able to say that it was my own fault, LOA, Karma, etc.. How does that help anyone in such a situation? How does that help when people have a baby that is under attack? How does that help when people are kept from sleep every night?

I for instance remember that in my young teenage years, I just had this ridiculous ideas popping up to do certain things, or someone would die from cancer or something else that is horrible. This could be stupid tedious things like lining up the teaspoon with the ear of my teacup. I was extremely surprised to find examples of these things in the book... And it's not that I first read the book and that then I experienced these things, meaning that the book programmed my subconscious - no. I simply recognize things I read in the book that I have experienced in the past which is a blast due the many "aha"-moments.

I sometimes thought that I was just a bad, messed up kid for having these stupid ideas that seemed to come from nowhere, including throwing an nice innocent child, who lived a few houses away, in thorn bushes and enjoying seeing it suffer. That's just not normal and it's NOT who I am or were - it's just too horrible to be my own thinking.

I could never truly talk to anyone about these things and it's AWESOME to see a DIFFERENT and DETAILED explanation of what could have caused these thoughts instead of me just being 'crazy' or 'weird' and that it's just my own ideas, karma, and LOA....blablablabla. The book also goes in DETAIL how to deal with these things and undo it, instead of just giving a general, insulting explanation that would only leave you with guilt without getting rid of the problem.


So believe whatever you want, but it's not just the bible that talks about these kind of things - there's present time examples out there as well and there's a whooooole lot more to this subject then most people care to learn.

I just wish people would stop to pretend to have the authority to state that something exists or doesn't exist while contradicting themselves in the extreme.
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2008, 13:36:15 »

Good Morning A.S. and All ~  cool

While I am aware of whom Robert Bruce is, I have not read his books.

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Adrian's book also mentions dark influences and even how to imagine a shield around you. That seems to be an acknowledgement of the existence of dark, negative influences to me. He also wrote in a topic about these influences trying to keep you from having a succesful astral projection just before the moment of projection (flashes, annoying noises, etc.).


I'm not saying negative or dark influences do not exist, they do if you believe they do and put the energy of belief into it. The emphasis is on what you are choosing to focus on and giving the power of your belief to create. Darkness does not comprehend the Light.


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Also, there should be a counterpart for everything good in the universe, right? Why don't you believe that demons exist when you do believe angels exist whom we are supposed to 'outrank'? Seriously, some of you just don't make sense to me. It's all extremely contradicting.


In this reality there is duality, contrast or counterpart. It is how 'things' are explained or understood in this reality. Seeing beyond this reality and I mean all of the created aspects of this reality is where our Source of Origin IS. There is no duality or contrast where Source is. Nothing can be compared to Source as all are encompassed in Source, without measure or end.

I can only speak for myself as you can only speak for yourself. In this particular post, I am speaking of looking past the methods used in this reality to accommodate the ability of the way the level of the mind works here in this illusive reality. Looking past this reality of illusions and into the Source of Light.


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There's also an example given in the book how young babies of just a few months old are attacked by negative entities, negs for short, and how Bruce helped them. He also asks how a young baby like that could ever think in such a way to attract these negs. 'Karma' and Law Of Attraction, some will say, and that they shouldn't be helped, because it's their own fault and it's their 'karma' to suffer from these attacks. I'm sorry, but that way of reasoning sounds ridiculous to me. And as Bruce states, it could also be the karma of these babies to receive HELP from him, right? So who are you people to say anything about a situation like that and state things as fact? Do you work in this field? Have you helped numerous people who were under attack? If not, then I rather listen to someone who seems to have hands on experience.


Anyone who is for the Light is here for this very purpose my friend, no matter what shows up in their particular experience. They meet ones at the level of their current existence and bring them into awareness of the Light.

I sense your irritation in this response. Anger and its many forms are a basic cause of fear not Love. In response to your challenging question, who are we not to say anything about these things?  What is being shared here is based on the experience of the individual aspects of the One having the entire experience. Which part do we leave out?  Fact? What may irritate or annoy anyone in regards to any statement is their own interpretation of a fact my friend and so the responsibility lies within the one making this statement based on a choice. Hearing Love or fear?

Proof is required by the ego mind and has nothing to do with the Source of All Light, Love and Living whom does not require any proof at all. IT IS.

There is always a possibility, a temptation to respond to these occurrences in a way that reinforces it. I speak for myself here in my response to this post that this is what I chose not to do. Reinforce a manifestation of negative, dark thoughts based on fear. Look beyond it to the Light which is where the healing takes place. There is no darkness in the Light.


Do I 'work' in this field? The whole Universe is considered a field my friend. So yes I do as all 'others' do. Do all work in the same experiences of this field? Some plant, some water, and some harvest. Have I written a book about such experiences? No, and I do not sense that I am being called to do so in regards to demonic possessions, obviously there are those called to handle this particular experience and bring it to the Light such as Robert Bruce.

I am called to be a vessel for the Light and I cannot nor will not deny this. As Spirit leads I follow the intuits my friend. Perhaps what is shared in this particular post does not speak to you because the actual procedures were not laid out, however, it may be speaking to someone. We are not asked to concern ourselves with the results, just allowing or being willing to allow the Spirit of Light to be expressed through us. Souce is handling the details.

One freedom that no matter what situation is being experienced here is that all have, in this illusive dual reality the freedom choose what one wishes to see or perceive. In Light there is no choice per se because there is only Light and no need to choose. Why would one choose darkness? Does that mean one won't here in this reality? Obviously not.


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I sometimes thought that I was just a bad, messed up kid for having these stupid ideas that seemed to come from nowhere, including throwing an nice innocent child, who lived a few houses away, in thorn bushes and enjoying seeing it suffer. That's just not normal and it's NOT who I am or were - it's just too horrible to be my own thinking.
 
I could never truly talk to anyone about these things and it's AWESOME to see a DIFFERENT and DETAILED explanation of what could have caused these thoughts instead of me just being 'crazy' or 'weird' and that it's just my own ideas, karma, and LOA....blablablabla. The book also goes in DETAIL how to deal with these things and undo it, instead of just giving a general, insulting explanation that would only leave you with guilt without getting rid of the problem.


I can understand about not being able to talk to just anyone about these things. I kept these things within as well. And A.S. I did experience demonic activities growing up and was given instructions on how to overcome them. It was where I chose to place my Power of Belief in and yes invoking a Higher Power to assist one when in the midst of the experience which I will share with you usually seemed to come from nowhere.

Having had these experiences with negative or dark energies allowed me to discern where my True Power lies within. We all have the Light within, we are conditioned to focus on the illusion and do not understand how heavy dark and dense this level of experience can be. It takes a Higher Mind and Power to assist us in rising up from it until we awaken to our already present True Power and can now experience this reality in Lightness of Being. All the masters received assistance from their Source, they lived from IT and trusted in IT.

I shared positionally with this in Mind here, to focus only on this, not on giving one’s energy over to dark energy thoughts which only strengthens the ties that bind one to it. It doesn't mean one is not aware of these things my friend.

Jesus cast out these demonic influences by how? He was intune with his Source, Heavenly Parent and that is how he did it. He knew who he was and he knew his Power and he used it. He removed the barrier also known as forgiveness of thinking one could be separated from Eternal Life. We are Eternal. He gave that back to the ones who were lost in their minds of suffering a lie or delusion.

I use Jesus here because it is mentioned a bit about him casting out demons or dark, negative energies.

Ego mind is very powerful as long as we continue to ‘feed’ it. I am speaking of the earthly ego not the Divine Ego.

I am choosing to focus on the Source of All Life here in this post because to go into all the details of demon possession does not benefit the hearers who have not experienced it and I do not personally wish to draw attention to darkness.

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So believe whatever you want, but it's not just the bible that talks about these kind of things - there's present time examples out there as well and there's a whooooole lot more to this subject then most people care to learn.

I just wish people would stop to pretend to have the authority to state that something exists or doesn't exist while contradicting themselves in the extreme.

Truly A.S., in reading your response, it only verifies for myself just how devious the ego is at usurping the rightful place of God within each of us by taking over ones mind and making one believe that they could ever be separated from the Source of Life of their Being.

It’s just what and how one chooses to perceive in this illusion. All are free to choose.

As to babies and children in this incarnation being attacked, projection comes to mind and we have discussed this idea in this forum so I will not go into it further.

I ask that you would consider opening your mind to focusing more on the Power of Light already contained within you and that it would open you to seeing the Light of Love’s presence that lives within you and from this knowing that your experiences would be transformed in the alchemical fire to bear out the gold that would assist others here who have yet to see whom they are. Share the Love not fear.

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2008, 07:21:44 »

Julia,

My point was that most people here immediately blame people for doing something to themselves when they have problems, while this just can't be proven to be true, and the same for the existence of certain types of entities. If people would just pay a little more attention to what they are writing, annoyed reactions can be more avoided.

Ofcourse people have the right to speak their mind, but they could just give their opinion instead of stating that something does or doesn't exist as fact and, again, contradicting themselves while doing so. To state that humans are above angels, therefore acknowleding the existence of angels and at the same time saying that demons don't exist is a very selective belief system. This might be good in itself, because you're focussing on something you like to exist ofcourse, but it might sound very contradicting to another reader.

I agree that, despite one's problems, one should focus on the light, not on the problems, but this can be seemingly impossible at times and gets worse when someone basicly says your problem doesn't exist, while for you, it does. That's just as insulting as modern psychology calling people crazy or delusional when they have a problem they can't explain otherwise. Perhaps that's not the intention of the writers of posts here, but I'm pointing out that you could write things in another manner, taking into account how someone might feel when reading the posts. I do not mean you personally, I mean all posters

You see, there's just no balance in opinion here - if you're suffering from negative influences, then immediately it will be stated that it's your own fault and that you're basicly creating these problems yourself. This may be the case, or it may not be the case - the posters here should speak for themselves because they can't speak for others anyway.

The contradictions is the thing that sometimes 'disturb' me. In Adrian's book it's the same thing - for instance, it's stated there that people who successfully achieved something never knew how they were gonna do it. Same thing with 'The Secret'. This is just ridiculous since lot's of people claimed they had a plan all the way, which contradicts what's been stated in reality books and movies. I don't watch tv anymore, but even people like Dr. Phil said "You gotta have a plan". People like that think things through all the way, in detail. And there's a lot of them. I could give more examples like this, but let me just say that pretty much everything in the books, movies, or this forum can be completely turned the other way, according to what you want to believe, including free will.

I do agree that it's best to focus on the positive, the light, but after another horror night, I'm always back to square one, having to recover from the night, instead of feeling refreshed. And this has always been the case for my entire life, even when I was a child, despite whatever I believed or focussed on. So all the stuff about focussing on the light, or getting in touch with your Higher Self, The Grand Scheme of things (sounds like a PLAN as well to me btw) etc., doesn't do much for someone who's been pushed back so square one after every night.

That's just why I welcome a book that gives a possible explanation of what could be causing this and, although I'm still reading it, it all sounds very plausible, even though it's not certain whether this book might or might not contain the answer to my problems.



BTW: I never heard about Bruce Lipton...
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2008, 09:50:18 »

Good Morning A.S.,

Pardon my faux pas. Robert Bruce is what I intended to mention here.

I responded to you here since I have participated in this thread earlier and I enjoy you as a participant in these forums.

Ongoing on this journey here for me, the word blame has come up many times and used by myself in various experiences as it is from my own observation a 'human' term and tendency. It was once pointed out to me to pay attention to the last two letters of the word blame. A pause moment. In essence revealing that my freedom lay in accepting responsibility for all that happened 'to' me.

This was not well received by me when I was first made aware of this shift in my usual way of thinking and I struggled it with for some of the reasons we speak of here for a very long while. It was different, in that while I could 'see' things going on and happening to me and others, it was really difficult to see how I could possibly be allowing it.

As I have continued on, I now understand that response-ability is about returning ones power back to one. Having within the ability to respond to any and all experiences in the moment. Again, it has taken almost 30 years to undo this conditioned way of thinking. What I finally realized was that no matter what was going on, I had the already innate power to choose to accept the thoughts with energy or let them go by asking the Higher Mind within me to open my eyes to what the 'message' behind the events meant. I learned of this Higher Mind by going through some of the events I mentioned here.

I have come to find that there is immeasurable benefits by allowing the Higher Mind in me to take the lead and by taking refuge in IT, I am in a sense protected by the Light of Love within reflecting in the outer picture.

I understand what you are sharing here in regards to Angels and demons. When I share about Energy (everything is Energy), I see in regards to Angels as Light Energy and demons as dark energy. Our minds create and give 'form' to them based on how much energy we give to them. Our earthly mind is not our Being. They are not the same thing. This also took awhile to sink in for me.

It is not my intention to 'pound' on one in the throes of suffering, it doesn't help one who is going through it. My intention is to plant a seed of thought (a spark) and allowing it to grow into the possibility that there may be another level (way) of seeing this world and all things in it, which was shown and shared with me and 'set me free' from the entanglement of the mind creating the picture.

I say this to encourage and empower you A.S.. As Spirit Beings we can call on assistance in our hour of need and know that we are always answered. It just takes what seems like time to see IT does answer.

I ask on your behalf that your awareness would grow into knowing without a doubt that you are surrounded by Divine Light, Love, Power and Wisdom radiating from within and that you would experience the Peace and Joy results in your Inner Being and outer picture of this fact my friend.

I am with you in Spirit.

Love to you always A.S.,

Julia


BTW - While there is a Bruce Lipton, I meant Robert Bruce and made the correction above.  smiley

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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2008, 05:55:36 »

Thanks  smiley

However, even though it's appreciated, for some reason I don't want anyone's direct help. So I don't ask to be with me in spirit, I only wanted to point out what I pointed out earlier - the contradictions and that people, in my opinion, shouldn't state that something doesn't exist.

Also, I do not usually actually see demons myself, but I wouldn't dismiss people who claim this either.
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2008, 08:20:33 »

Good Morning A.S. ~  smiley

As always your thoughts are appreciated.

Love to you in Divine Spirit,

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