Definitions of Meanings, Speaking in Spiritual Language

[Kadensnga]

Ah!

There you are Julia.

Great love to all here!

[juliainkc]

I see you!!

and yes Great Love to All here ~

GOD extending ITs idea as ~

Julia here ~

[juliainkc]

The word unsuprisingly is worship.

On my way to my bed after signing out of here, I asked, how would worship be defined simply?

The word that 'popped' up was Namaste. The Divine Presence in me, blesses and honors the Divine Presence in you.

Mutual LOVE, adoration, respect extending to all. Spirit expressing through our bodies, earthly temples or vehicles of communicating this idea to all.

Namaste All.

InJoy this day Being LOVEd, adored and respected.

In the Spirit of LOVE,

Julia

[Kadensnga]

Julia,

Your definition of worship, resonates highly with me. Namaste. Thank for providing a key label for me. We can only express (words/labels) as far as our physical mind can communicate concepts, and thus "knowing" is sometimes hard to translate into words...

Thank you for a fine concise definition, which harmonizes with my knowing.

Muchos Grande Amor,
John

[juliainkc]

You are most lovingly welcomed John.

Namaste.

[juliainkc]

So, sharing a back of the house, weekend brew with all whom are so inclined. As always I give open invitations, all are welcome into my home and to sit at my table. This is a series of three newsletters, building in the Divine Sequential Order of things a solid foundation of an unlearning of the collective consciousness' thought systems that entrap ones.

Take what speaks to you and leave the rest. Trust in the outcome. Today, let's take a closer look at another way of meaning, defining of the idea of what guilt is.

InJoy your process of reclaiming your Inheir ITance, your True Freedom Everyone.

Love's Peace extended to you all, whom are Divinely favored by our Source of Love and Peace,

Julia



Journey to the Center of Ego

 Liz Cronkhite
ACIM Mentor Newsletter,
July 31, 2009
 
            If the personal mind was a sphere like Earth, and you bore down to its core, you'd find guilt and fear. Guilt and fear are the foundation of the personal mind, not in the sense that they give rise to the personal mind, but in the sense that without guilt and fear the personal mind would cease to exist. Guilt and fear are the personal mind's self-perpetuating mechanism because they are what keep you from God.

            Many years ago I walked out my front door on my way to get something out of my car and suddenly the world was washed with Innocence. It was the same world it had been a moment before: the same street, the same cars parked in the street, the same winter-bald trees. The physical world did not change, but my mind did. Or, rather, I changed minds. For whatever reason, at that moment I was open to the Vision of my Christ Mind. The moment passed and I realized that, except for that moment and moments like it, I am perceiving guilt and fear. I didn't think I felt guilty, but now I understood that guilt and fear are the state of being of a personal identity. A personal identity is the belief that I have separated from God (guilt), and that I will be punished for it (fear).

            I have entered a stage now where I am facing the guilt and fear of the personal mind head on. I have worked away many, many layers of denial and defense and there is nothing left to do but deal with the core of the personal mind. The personal mind still tries to deny what is at its center because it doesn't want me looking at it. It tells me that I can't have guilt because I wasn't raised in a guilt-layering religion, nor have I ever done anything very wrong. But of course, this isn't about guilt from a personal life. That guilt is just a symptom of The Guilt that is the foundation of the personal mind.

Certainly, I understand intellectually that I am not guilty for anything, and I feel the Presence of the Holy Spirit with me, so obviously I'm not separate from God. But the belief persists; it is very deep-seated. I see and feel the evidence of it in my perceptions that conflict, disease, and discord are real; in random fears; in pain in the body; in the hateful thoughts that pass through my mind, about others or myself. The belief originates in the split mind and is fostered by the personal mind, but I, the decision maker who is really One with God but identifies with a personal self, have taken it on as my own. I really, really do believe that I'm guilty. Oh, how uncomfortable! But it's a relief, too, because I always saw the evidence that that belief was there within me, and I knew that I would have to confront it some day.

This was not something I could force, because, as the A Course in Miracles says, it takes some preparation to look at stark insanity. I couldn't do it without knowing that the Holy Spirit is in me, too. This awareness acts as a sort of counter-weight so that I don't topple into the abyss of the personal mind as I descend into its pit of guilt and fear. I must look at what I have made to undo it, but once I acknowledge it is there, the only appropriate response is to let it go and return to Truth. This is what I am doing over and over again.  I have no idea what this process is going to be like, or how long it may take, but I'm glad to be finally undoing the personal mind at its core. Next week's article will be more on The Guilt.

[Kadensnga]

Julia, Beloved Friend,

This is EXACTLY what I am talking about!!!

Guilt is the very highest form of "obligatory energy". Selah.

Entertaining it keeps us from freedom.

It keeps us feeling like we have to be "deserving", so we are constantly obliged to "deserve something" that we simultaneously believe we are too imperfect to ever quite "deserve".

As if we are obliged to the universe somehow.

A great spiritual teacher once told me "Guilt is for the weak".

I have pondered that for many years. I believe it is true in a hundred different ways.

Namaste.
John

[zensunni7]

Worship was redefined by religion - From an expression of Oness to an obligation resulting in negative consequence if not done. " Death is the wages of sin '' Not to worship - bow and pay homage to God = death of eternal life, or worse, eternal damnation.

Guilt is a manipulators master tool. It is also ingrained into the Human DNA, usually activated by parents as we grow. It is a tool used by teachers, employers, spouses, because it works. Yet fear is the button pushed to awaken the programming. Guilt promises grave consequence for noncompliance. Ah dark forces - the army of the damned. Lest ye fall into the hands of Satan.

Being raised Catholic, I was fed guilt intravenously - eat it kid ! You can't have any pudding if you don't eat your guilt. So I went into the bathroom and threw it up. Confession was the ceremony of ridding oneSelf  of this dis-ease for having offended God. " Bless me father for I have sinned '' take my guilt from me so I may be cleansed.

Such teachings are an abomination of God I feel. What a great way to disconnect a child's natural connection to Source. A subtle transfer of innocence to a jaded perception of the Source / Human relationship. Guilt is for the weak, your teacher was quite accurate, but even in such a statement there lies the subtly of being imperfect in your weakness.
See the web woven into he fabric of belief?

Peeling the onion, purging, cleansing,it all states clearly we are unworthy - yet - to receive the grace and blessings of God. A life dedicated to being pure enough to be received in death.Religion, psychology, spirituality, all promise redemption from imperfection and return to Gods good graces. It is abuse - hit the child and make them responsible for your violence. Before the punch came the words of your horrible nature. Preparation for acceptance of this belief. Yet it keeps the altars filled with bounty for those allowed behind the curtain, the most unworthy accepting gifts for God. We are not ' there ' unless we are raising the dead and giving them wine from water.

Yet freedom remains the great unknown to us Humans doesn't it? We measure it in degrees of escape from situations. A long road out from the many many sins we have committed, and when we feel we have reached the door to freedom, will we step through? It is not clearly defined what freedom is, guilt is a known territory.
So even when vindicated, freedom is the banner but actuality is the fear. Moses wandered forty years after escaping slavery.
" What do we do now ? Damned if I know ! "


 

[juliainkc]

Thank you my Beloved Brothers,

I InJoy your sharing here truly! And agree that most definitons are defined by some sort of religion. I agree that entertaining guilt keeps us from Freedom because we truly cannot focus on two thoughts at one time when we get down to the core of what our core belief is. It is increasingly difficult to do the splits, with one foot on either side.

Whom we are in our True Nature, has nothing to do with guilt or being guilty truly. However, it is obvious that many still secretly believe this and have yet to understand this and so it is in meeting ones at the door of one's current level of awareness like the 'Enlightened Ones' have done and in walking along side of them backwards to the Beginning before the beginning of this reality, presenting the opportunity to these ones to see for themself the erred building progression based on being established upon a psuedo look alike foundation by revealing how one lie was built upon another creating what we see currently and coming from the desire to 'correct' or allow one to see clearly for oneself how to undo this.

We are all Divine Architects like our Source. Builders and yet there seems to have been an error in the building here and it begins from the foundation of this reality's beginnings. An imitation of the real deal. So, let's remove the current swaying, toppling at any moment building and build anew from the ground up based from the Original Blueprint that has not changed. We just have to awaken to seeing this. And those who are awakened to this are desiring to reveal this Original Blueprint with all so that what we can come together as ONE in purpose to build from this solid foundation of the established from the Beginning before time began, the Original, Unmoveable foundation. The one that lasts and does not fade away ever. ONE LOVE for all of ONE SELF.


Here is the second of the articles on guilt for consideration of walking backwards and undoing the false foundations.

Love to all in Peace and Harmony and Freedom,

Julia

ACIM Mentor: The Guilt
by Liz Cronkhite
August 7, 2009


Last week I mentioned that I have entered a phase where I am finally dealing with The Guilt of the split mind. I've been asked to share how this shows up, but first let me explain what The Guilt is. The one mind that is the part of God's Mind in which the idea of God's opposite seems to exist, and that is the source of all personal minds, believes that it has attacked God and stolen part of God for itself.

Every personal mind, being a micro-version of this split mind, takes on this belief for itself. This belief is the source of The Guilt, which leads to fear of God, and an expectation that God will punish you. When you identify with a personal self, attack-guilt-fear is the very core of your identity, and is the source of the hellish world that you project. After you have detached enough from the personal self and have begun to identify with the Holy Spirit, you reach a point where the only obstacles to God left are the guilt/fear-of-God beliefs that you have taken from the personal mind as your own.

For me, this process began maybe 5 years ago with sleeping dreams that I would have once or twice a week. In these dreams, either I had murdered someone, or I was helping someone else cover up a murder that they had committed. In either case, the dreams were accompanied with tremendous feelings of guilt. I realized at the time that this was the The Guilt and that these dreams represented my deep-seated belief that I have tried to kill God. The dreams eventually were replaced by my waking up in the middle of the night convinced that I had not been giving one of my dogs vital medicine he needed to survive. Again, guilt. In these cases, I'd have to wake up fully, take account of my dogs and their various ailments (they were getting older), and realize that none of them had a life-threatening illness that required consistent medication.

The dreams of murder eventually stopped; occasionally, variations on the idea that I have not done something essential for someone else's survival crop up. Even though I've known all along what these were about, I wasn't yet at a place where I could deal with them at their roots. Then, very recently, came the rage. I'd wake up every morning in a rage and I'd have to meditate and detach from it somewhat before I could get on with my day. Even after doing this, I'd still find myself having fits of rage over small things throughout the day. I didn't understand this rage until I started to work on The Guilt and the rage all but disappeared. Then I got that it was all part of the same package: The source of anger is fear, and the source of fear is guilt. I still occasionally have minor bouts of rage, but I quickly trace them back to the guilt and undo them.

How do I do this? The Guilt comes from my perception that I am separate from God, so I only need to look at the evidence that this perception is erroneous. The Holy Spirit has been guiding me for 25 years, for the past few years I have felt the Holy Spirit's Constant Presence with me, and I have had several direct revelations of God. So I've had enough experience of God now to know that God is All that is Real, but I still must acknowledge this consciously to counteract the The Guilt that I've taken on from the personal mind. I do affirmations that remind me that God is the One Being of Which I am a Part, not an authoritative separate thing; I open my mind to God daily; I stop and acknowledge God throughout the day; I spend my days maintaining my presence to the Holy Spirit's Presence; I forgive again and again and again appearances of separation from God.

The personal mind is vigilant only for its own survival, so I am vigilant only for God and my Oneness with God. I will forgive over and over again until I've completely undone The Guilt that I've made and accepted, and then I will rest in Peace for Eternity.

[zensunni7]

Beautiful words my beautiful Sister.

Yes, architects as Source is.  Source creates in a unique way we are just beginning to see. all Source creates is Self - sustaining, Self maintaining, and Self evolving. The instant of creation from source is the same instant that Source lets go of its creation - fly little one. It is the flow of Source that breathes life into all of creation, and never ceases breathing. It is Zensunni  - no thought, no practice, it is what Source does. Allowing Source freedom to continue creating.
Freedom takes on a new dimension.

Our creations are Self deteriorating, they rust, wear out, and enslave us to their maintenance and care. They demand we pronounce death when they have lived out their service. We  even seen this attitude towards our own biology - Source created us with a built in meter for death, and such a thing is contrary to all Sources other creations. HMMMMMMMMMM.

Going green does not mean Earth friendly but Human friendly, creating that which grows of its own desire and Self evolving ability. What we create into this reality, powered and empowered by our own energy will grow and enhance the whole of its environment, with no thought or action from us after its creation.

Just some thoughts - created here.

What we breathe into our desires and create  as Source, the one breath is eternal. We need not give it another thought.

[Kadensnga]

Brother Darrel and Sister Julia,

What an awesome subject! To me it is so synchronistic with the new plateau I am arriving at re: obligitory energy. Guilt is absolutely the highest form of it.

So,

I am sitting in a church service this morning (I go to help out my family by playing the piano lately... it also gives me a chance to play music and simultaneously be a blessing to them...). They all know my beliefs but I don't flaunt them much because it just "hurts" them, unecessarily, ie; my hurting them since I know this is also unnecessary.

Yes I've tried to sell them, but in the end they just worry for my soul, so if it comforts them for me to help without expressing my opinion, by all means let them be comforted. It's not skin off my proverbial nose either way, as long as I accomplish my personal agenda which is to be a blessing and play some piano.

Anyway,

Being especially sensitive to the oppressing energy of guilt which is so foreign to my own system, I hear them say things like "Jesus said, no man comes to the father except through me..." (with this long list of things we are obliged to be in order to be counted as "coming through him" which none of us could ever attain or deserve), and I think "You all just really don't get it do you..."?

Mind you, alot of these things are said intentionally because I am there in listening distance, and they are apauled that I really think I am one of them believing the way I do, or that I have the nerve to count myself as a child of God with my beliefs...I just sit back and say "Yup. Pretty amazing huh? All of the benefits and none of the burdens...sorry I will not accept that I am less Godlike...in fact I also apologize that I really believe down inside that I am actually MORE like this father you worship than even you are..."

I feel almost hopeless for them, but I know all evolve at their own appropriate pace, so I carry no obligation to save them from their ignorance, because they will learn in due time on their own and they are not ready to be awakened at this time. I once slept in just the same way... they can't really do any harm as the new awareness sweeping across universal consciousness is making their ways obsolete... they can't possibly spread any more fear than they have already, and the days of these types of religions are seriously numbered and dwindling fast.

I feel intuitively that guilt based religion will all but fade away in the next generation or two.

I hear them say "Jesus gave his life for me so now I owe him mine..." and I think to myself "He offered his physical existence to convince you that you didn't have to carry guilt, because it was the only way you would believe, and so, totally the opposite of what he was trying to do... you are all running around feeling even more guilty, and more obliged, and thinking that your lives of quiet desperation and not-good-enough-ness somehow justify his sacrifice..., it's all backwards!!!


He was a master, and he knew that people needed freedom from their guilt, he knew that the oppression (or illusion rather) of guilt kept them from being their highest selves, and he knew that fulfilling their prophecies would be the closest he could get to breaking those anchors and advancing man kind toward being guilt free".

Whenever I feel guilty these days I think "Where are thy accusers", and further more "who cares" this is my experience, and I don't have time for guilt, it keeps me from contributing my best to the world. Guilt is spiritually counter productive.

No man can rise higher than the highest in all of us, and no man can go lower than the lowest in all of us... we are one, surely no man can come to the father but through him, or through ME... no man can come to Julia or Darrel but through me, or through Jesus, and also Adrian, and Laura, and Leila, and Louis...

I quote Jesus in this dialogue, because the mis-interpretation of his significance as a teacher is the # 1 corrupter of truth in the world I believe.

Once again, I truly believe those days are really over, there's a generation still holding onto those beliefs but I don't foresee the next generation or two continuing in such obvious folly.

Thanks for indulging my two cents and allowing me to participate in your most fascinating dialogue.

Namaste,
Jon

[Mina-Laura]

Yet freedom remains the great unknown to us Humans doesn't it? We measure it in degrees of escape from situations. A long road out from the many many sins we have committed, and when we feel we have reached the door to freedom, will we step through? It is not clearly defined what freedom is, guilt is a known territory.
So even when vindicated, freedom is the banner but actuality is the fear. Moses wandered forty years after escaping slavery.
" What do we do now ? Damned if I know ! "

Dear Darrell,

Total freedom is scary for us humans. Still we on the path are preparing for it. The responsibility!!

Moses didn't wandered. He...simply... prepared his people for the new found freedom. See we long for freedom yet when we have it ,..as you said... what do we do now??
We learn!!... for as long as it takes 'how to keep on the path'... how to not succumb and go back to Egypt and its oh so greater comforts compared to lifeless desert.

I guess the purpose is not the destination ...but the character of soul gained throughout the journey.

[zensunni7]

I guess the purpose is not the destination ...but the character of soul gained throughout the journey.

You summed that up quite well Laura. Freedom is something different to everyone. Responsibility as you say- response ability. To land on any surface, on our feet and balanced in any situation.
Personally I don't believe Moses and his people were slaves of anything but themselves, too much evidence to the contrary to ignore. But slavery and freedom are mind sets - like heaven and hell.

Freedom is scary - like a roller coaster, scary and awesome in the same e-motion. We are on the cusp of so many things - freedom being the foremost as you said. We are already in a new dimension -

[juliainkc]

Good Morning Beloved Darrell, John, Laura and Everyone,

Such beautiful language flowing here truly. As you all know, I love synchronicity. This was in my ebox this morning and 'fits' so well in what we are sharing. And once shared, I will post the last of the three to bring more clarity to this idea of guilt and fear being the twins of a separated mind.

InJoy this day All,

Much LOVE to you all,

Julia


'It takes a lot of courage to release the familiar and seemingly secure, to embrace the new. But there is no real security in what is no longer meaningful. There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.'
 
~ Alan Cohen ~

[juliainkc]

May this bless the hearers today. It goes along with the idea I will share in the Creating Unity thread today ~

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

ACIM Mentor: The Fear
by Liz Cronkhite
August 14, 2009

Since I wrote about guilt in the last two articles, it seems only natural now to write about its conjoined twin, fear. There is no guilt without fear and no fear without guilt. You feel guilty for separating from God and you expect to be punished for it. This is the source of all fear. Fear is the symptom, or proof, that you feel guilty. And, of course, it is inherent in your identification with a personal self, which is the "proof" that you have successfully snapped off part of God for yourself.

A long while ago I wrote about students who would say to me that they didn't fear God. I'd ask them if they were 100% at Peace 100% of the time. They'd say no, and I'd ask them why not? What was their obstacle to Peace if not fear of God? If they didn't fear God, they'd just accept God right now.

Fear of God is ultimately the only obstacle to Peace, and if you look deeply enough into your mind, you will always find it when you are not at Peace. Fear of God is why you are resistant to meditating, to practicing the lessons in the Workbook consistently, to calling on the Holy Spirit for guidance, to extending God's Love in your awareness, and to simply accepting the Peace that is always here with you.
 
You believe that God demands some sacrifice of you: either payment beforehand (you must earn God's Love), or payment afterward. It is why you experience what I call "ego-rebound" or "ego-backlash" when you have experienced God.
 
The personal mind has no power of its own, so if you are experiencing it, it is because you are choosing it. Why does it seem that you can only accept so much of God before you turn again to the personal mind? It's because you wonder what it is going to "cost" you to experience God's Love. The more you experience It, the more you think you will have to "pay" for It afterward.

Sometimes the fear takes the form of you not wanting to give up the personal self. You don't want to give it up because you are afraid that the experience of God is even worse. I realized a long while ago that I have two gods in my mind: The God of my experience, Which is Wholly Loving; and the frightening, inconsistent, punishing god that I have made in the image of the personal self.

I don't fear What God really is; I fear the god that I have made and that I project onto God. Overcoming guilt/fear, then, is a process of reminding myself of this again and again. This is the catch-22: You have to experience God to learn that God is not what you fear, yet fear keeps you from being willing to experience God. This is where teachings like A Course in Miracles come in. By reassuring you again and again that you are One with God, and that God is Only Love, it helps you to let down your fear just enough to let the Holy Spirit in to your experience. From there you can begin to build trust.

Sometimes it seems that guilt and fear are immovable, but remember that God is your Truth, and you know this on some level. It is inevitable that you will work through guilt and fear and be your Self again because you already are your Self. Guilt and fear are just made-up ideas; they have no reality. When you let them go, you find that Peace is Present.