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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2009, 13:14:49 »

So, opening my Journal to the Universe, no thing is hidden that will not be revealed...

Why? To shame another? Who is 'another' to shame me? Why me of course!! Would I shame my self? again, why?

Do we believe or just think about what we believe . . . big difference here folks ~

Self Mastery is the art of Self Doctoring or Self Examining ~

Julia!! pull your dress down!! we do not do such things in public!!

We don't ? Why?

Go sit in the corner and think about IT!!

Um, Well that is all I do really and yet what you say doesn't sound at all like what IT says to me...

IT says, you must be like a CHILD to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Be your bare assed SELF!!

JULIA!! Don't say such things here!!

Well, 'too late!' I just did ~

So, here is the Love Letter or Love Note that I shared with my Beloved Inner Circle and those who do not see themself in my Inner Circle is because you choose to not see yourself in IT... Truth.

Julia, dress over her head through the open door ~ don't look if you don't like what you see ~  wink

Shared (Served)  from the 'The Angels Within Us' by John Randolph Price



The Angel of Discernment

The mystics of the East considered this angel the Archetype of Karmic Deliverance. Among the Gnostics of early Christianity it was the power of grace, the energy that removes the error stains of past misdeeds from consciousness and helps us to control our destiny through the quality of discernment. This of course relates specifically to the Law of Cause and Effect...so now let's give it our full attention as the major determining factor of life on the third-dimensional plane.

Cause and effect, action and reaction, compensation, and karma---which all mean the same thing---were taught as part of the 'natural sciences' in the sacred academies of the ancient past. The students were told that through specific actions, effects are produced, results become manifest, and that by being consciously aware of the law they could use it to escape the victim vibration and improve successive states of existence.

In truth there really is no such thing as 'bad' and 'good' karma. It is simply a natural force to enable an individual, a group, or a nation to reap what is sown.

...one may find it difficult to believe that Jesus taught basically the same course of instruction. ...that is,  an action produces a reaction

It's in Luke 6:37-38: 'Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give and it shall be given to you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For the measure you give will be the measure you get back.' And in Luke 8:18-18 we see how the consiousness becomes its own karmic force: 'For nothing is hid that shall not be made manifest, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come to light. Take heed then how you hear, for to him who has will more be given, and from him who has not, even what he thinks that he has will be taken away.' And Paul stated in Romans 2:1, 'Therefore you have no excuse, O man, whosoever you are, when you judge another; for in passing judgment upon him you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, are doing the very same things.' (Paul's line about the person not having any excuse was just a way of saying that karmic law does not make allowances for ignorance.)

Just as in the Mystery schools, Jesus and Paul were teaching the effects of causes emanating from consciousness, but they were also providing lessons from Ageless Wisdom on the art of discernment, particularly as it relates to being prudent and judicious with impressions made on the great 'cosmic recorder and playback machine.' With a multitude of examples and analogies we are told how to lay a proper foundation in consciousness to avoid karmic repercussions and are admonished to think before taking a specific action, with the consequences of the act carefully explained.

This teaching was a way of establishing guidelines for living successfully on earth, for when we born, we entered a force field that is both extremely dangerous and highly beneficial. We came into a karmic vibration that accepts every thought, word and deed and plays it back tous in an interconnected life experience.

This force is a part of the natural order of things and is to be respected but not feared.

Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote,

...The dice of God are always loaded. Every secret is told, every crime is punished, every virtue is rewarded, every wrong redressed, in silence and certainty. What we call retribution is the universal necessity by which the whole appears wherever a part appears.

Since the thoughts, words, and deeds that affect 'compensations' are based on what we believe, it would only seem prudent to check our belief system---comparing what we actually believe with what we think we believe. The truth is, we really do not know what we believe until we see the effects in the outer world. We say that we believe in harmony, goodwill, and right relations, but perhaps we are more certain of a hostile world, a competitive jungle, and obstructive forces. It is the latter that will be impressed on the sensitive karmic plates, producing personal conflict, opposition, and bondage---and all this will continue until the beliefs are changed.

All it takes is discipline and dedication to learn the ancient art of discernment. To be discerning means to be perceptive, astute, discriminating, judicious. It means to be constantly aware of your thoughts, words, and deeds and to think, speak, and act only from the standpoint of harmlessness. It  means to be sensitive and shrewd in the examination and restructuring of your beliefs in order to ensure that they are based on the Truth of Being and not on appearances.

We pay off the karmic debt registered in the body by eliminating irritation and hostility and by transmuting our anger into a purposeful intention to live in wholeness. Instead of fighting the disease, we begin building a consciousness of health by letting our conscious awareness dwell on the wholeness of the perfect Master Self, and we stay with it until the realization experience occurs. We practice preventive medicine by living with Unconditional Love to impress only will-for-good on the karmic field. We stamp 'paid in full' on the karmic obligations in our finances by moving above a sense of futility in life and by correcting the sense of separation from our source. We cease the struggle against insufficiency and concentrate more on understanding that our consciousness of the abundantly rich I AM within is our supply. We are what we are conscious of being!

We have it all and we have it now, and now is the time to make certain that the universal karmic nature receives this impression with all of the forces of our divine consciousness. And fortunately we have a holy helper who is ready and able to act on this intention.

In some Mystery schools this angel was called Adonis. By the Egyptian and Persian priestcraft he was considered one of the world saviors who crucified and rose again. When intiated into the Mysteries of Adonis the neophyte passed through the death of sin (missing the mark through the lack of discernment) and into a state of redemption, with Adonis himself paying the karmic penalties.

Little is known of the process of initiation except that renunciation was a major part---a formal giving up of all the claims of the senses and a rejection of appearances. Much time was devoted to periods of seclusions to discover 'correspondences' (causes and effect), followed by instructions in the 'knowledge of being separate from the root of opposing forces.' It is interesting that the root word of discernment comes from a Latin term meaning' to know enough to keep separate.'

The graduates of the Adonis School took with them the knowledge of a spiritual power within, a quality of divine force that we are calling the Angel of Discernment.

...'This myth of Adonis and Venus and Proserpina helped to explain the rebirth of nature in spring.'

Many times we, too, have intuitively felt that a paricular action was not in our best interests, yet we shrugged off the admonition and later paid for our failure to listen by 'dying' of embarassment, regret, failure, and deprivation. Ignoring what we know to be true guidance for right action does produce a corresponding effect.

Over the years I finally learned discernment and in the process overcame a tendency to play the victim through self-pride, indiscretion, and impetuous action. (rebellion) When I began the study of the angels, I realized that I had blocked the energy of this Causal Power through a consciousness focused almost entirely on the effects of this world rather than the Cause, as well as a strong desire to separate myself from people because of uncertainties in dealing with them.

I later found that this angel will work through our intuition to keep us on the straight-and-narrow path of high perception and deep discrimation. He will train our consciousness to judge rightly and enable us to work in the realm of Cause to realize fulfillment, peace, and freedom. Through the energy of this angel we will know the proper door to open and the right action to take in the ultimate mastery of karmic forces.

Astrologically this angel is represented by the energy of Virgo, symbolizing the valley of silence and deep experiences. The angel works with this energy to remove barriers that are blocking the realization of the Christ principle and to impress us with the idea of subordinating the material world to the Will of God, thus lifting consciousness above the retribution aspects of karma. The Virgo energy is the latent Christ Consciousness, and the seed that leads to the fruit of this consciousness is the idea of divinity in the form---the unity of spirit and matter---'Christ in you the hope of all glory.' Virgo is the energy that helps us overcome a condemnation of the material world as nonspiritual, and through it the Angel of Discernment teaches, tolerance, compassion, and charity (Love) as the way of karmic control.

In Watchers of the Seven Spheres this angel tells us that he is a symbol 'of divine prescience---of thought without emotion'---and that he strives 'ever for unity, harmonizing the conflicting vibrations. . . to transmute the errors and the fears, the conflicts and confusions which arise through man's own blindness, into ultimate benefit, bring the swift retribution that he may learn to associate with Cause and Effect and recognize that evil and destruction breed nought but dissolution, and love and harmony alone will lead him toward the Perfect State.'






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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2009, 18:32:00 »

My Dearest Julia,

Thank you for your invitation.

Forgive me for being slow. I am just learning how to navigate my way around this forum, and tend to get a bit lost. I will continue to visit this thread, and look forward to see where our journey together leads, and what will be seen along the way.

I am both free to be lead, as well as anxious to follow.

Being 20% through Adrian's book "our ultimate reality", and I must say that in my next interaction with him I will formally ask his permission to call him "friend".

I have devoted my life to the aspiration of existing in a higher vibration, but not even 10% as knowledgeable as he (on a conscious level).

I am honored by your invitation here.

Thank you for taking me under your wing ~ yet again.

In great Love,
Kadensnga

Ps. I see I am not the only single parent here. We all have so much in common.

BTW:

Kadensnga means "kadens -nga" (pronounced "kaden-zunga")

In "this" experience ( a wonderful one indeed), I was made into a grandfather at age 36, and so my (now 4 year old) grandson used to call me "N-ga" (before he could formulate words as we know them).

I have taken that title as my personal identity, because it is the proudest expression of me - being kadens-nga!

So wonderful to experience you all, and co-create with you... guess your seed has begun growing!

Holding all of you in the light of love,
Kadensnga



Back to Julia:

As you say "going deeper still...and even deeper..."

From what life experience do I remember you my ole friend...do refresh my memory... was it the 16th century when I was a priest perhaps?

Hmmm...

You are sweetly familiar... this is not the first time your energy has inspired my endearment... I am always captivated by it and and can never resist being enveloped... maybe "drawn" is more appropriate then "captivated"... what mischief will we find ourselves in the middle of this time?

I am incorrigible, and full of anticipation. You already know this.

... grow seed grow!

Yes, I want to play... as much work as there is to be done...

Maybe you can understand my babble. It would be refreshing if someone did. I am getting bored playing on the surface... take me somewhere, get me outta this place...do you know where there is to go, where an insanely spiritually drawn person can be satisfied in this physical plane...or can you show me the way to another?

Is there a place where others babble like me and I can have a decent conversation, with someone besides my grandson?

Are there others on this plane who embrace the world of imagination as I do, or see how easily it can be made a solid place of reality that truly works surrealistically with the tangible world?

Is this the place?

The only ones who think I am wise (and there are many) are the ones who dont truly know me or else they would think I am insane.

A surreal place indeed.

Is there anything wrong with the fact that my "real world" is more "surreal"?

I had better stop before you think I talk too much.

Many questions being on this fence.

"Grow seed"!

I cannot wait until you join this conversation. I must admit I'm a bit shocked that you haven't already arrived.

Great Love,

Kadensnga

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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2009, 00:08:05 »

Oh wow Julia,

What you just wrote I discovered through harsh brutal reality experience. It took me a long while to see in my ex (Virgo) the Universe speaking to me and shaking me badly to wake up.

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The Virgo energy is the latent Christ Consciousness, and the seed that leads to the fruit of this consciousness is the idea of divinity in the form---the unity of spirit and matter---'Christ in you the hope of all glory.' Virgo is the energy that helps us overcome a condemnation of the material world as nonspiritual, and through it the Angel of Discernment teaches, tolerance, compassion, and charity (Love) as the way of karmic control.

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All it takes is discipline and dedication to learn the ancient art of discernment. To be discerning means to be perceptive, astute, discriminating, judicious. It means to be constantly aware of your thoughts, words, and deeds and to think, speak, and act only from the standpoint of harmlessness. It  means to be sensitive and shrewd in the examination and restructuring of your beliefs in order to ensure that they are based on the Truth of Being and not on appearances.


Amin!



Oh..Smiley looks as other angel is in your pursuit now ...
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« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2009, 00:22:22 »

Hi Laura,

I have been reading your posts. You are most intriguing as well. I look forward to knowing you.

Warm regards, and great love to you.

Kadensnga
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« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2009, 00:51:05 »

Astrologically this angel is represented by the energy of Virgo, symbolizing the valley of silence and deep experiences.

According to this quote, This angel must be currently the one who is traveling with me. I have been a long time in valley of silence and deep experience...moreso than ever in my life...particularly "silence"

I have went from being to most extroverted person in the world , to the most introverted in the last 2 of forty years. Just kind of backed off from the whole world in a sense to be open and see what the universe might reveal...or to let all of my past karma run it's course...and start anew.

Not that the karma was bad in any way...just took this stance more to clear "old energy" that kept perpetuating itself. I backed off to let the self perpetuating karma run it's cycle.

I even got an emf attunement before hand intentionally... to kick it off (the "clearing" cycle).

Today I stand in a place where karma is quiet, and quite boring actually, and I am wondering what to do now that all old energy has run it's course.

Honestly, the universe has spoken to me "less" during this time, and I have wondered "where did it go"?

Has my stillness seperated me from the muse of enlightenment somehow?

Have I not generated enough energy to have anything coming back?

Or maybe...because we are constantly becoming more of that wich we already are..., my mind, as my life is just getting more quiet and has less to say.

As of late, it wants to get up and jump around and play again.

You can see above that sometimes there is still a burst of intuitive energy here and there that wants to come out and play. It certainly could use some exercise.

This place seems like a good place to hear it again (the voice of enlightenment and revelation knowledge).
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« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2009, 01:15:04 »

Dear Kadenska,

What you speak as of 'silence' was not quite so ..because in the greatest silence we hear the most the song of our souls.

My guess would be you had a lapse of falling of into some sort healing time ..out of which now you surge with a great desperation and need of love.

Smiley however you are on your right path of that be assured.

Find your divinity! Find the true silence.
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« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2009, 01:19:34 »

Talk to me Laura.

Healing time indeed.

You are telling me what I am not telling you...

I feel very healed. In fact I have been tested of that to be sure... I am most certainly free from the old patterns, but I dont know what to do with the person who is free.
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« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2009, 01:41:14 »

Kadenska Smiley

You remind me a lot of Leila (our early Leila).


I feel very healed. In fact I have been tested of that to be sure... I am most certainly free from the old patterns, but I dont know what to do with the person who is free.


Tiz not easy finding who we truly are and being that with great abandon. Parts of us won't let it happen (just yet) .. it simply means the soul hasn't gathered enough strength to soar. The physical plane was masterfully designed so not to make it easy to break free.

What comes to mind (as paraphrasing a beloved friend of mine going by the name Talker ..lol..) look into finding your purpose.
Watch Matrix (perhaps again ... ) and this helped me (along with a million other things ) http://www.knowyourpurpose.com/

There's no time to waste!!  immerse yourself in everything you can to get moving, to get your soul soaring ..


you can do it grandpa Wink - how great that is!!  hmmm now you remind me of Julia grandma  cool the sweetest of all
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« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2009, 01:41:56 »

Good night Julia

sweet dreams ... Smiley
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« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2009, 01:45:31 »

LOL

Grandpa can do ANYTHING!

Well I certainly do my share of planting seeds, and I am certain that this expression called "me" has produced muc gold for the great alchemist...

Just bored...

But intuitively. I can tell you are completely picking up on my vibe...it's a Bit embarrassing. I feel naked and ashamed!
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« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2009, 01:47:49 »

Hello Beloved Laura and Kadense - nga, cool

I love your story Kadense ~~nga. It vibes with mine. I was allowed to become a 'grand' mother at age 38. And . . . titled or labeled or named ~~ amma, aka momma mixed up!! wink

To your original thought brought forth in expression here in post;

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/creative-play-via-sowing-seed-t810.0.html;msg16119#msg16119

I say to your 'boredom' ...

If ... some body asks you a question about matters sacred, always answer in terms of matters profane. (Plenty of that here as in yours truly, language and all)

If they ask you about ultimate reality, answer in terms of everyday life. (again, Plenty of that here as in yours truly)

If they ask you about everyday life, answer in terms of ultimate reality. (Once again, echoing, Plenty of that here as in yours truly) wink

This saying was from a calendar that I do not read like the perpetual one shared in the Creating Unity thread . . .

the author being Hui-Neng, The Sixth Partiarch

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia cool
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« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2009, 01:51:02 »

Good evening Julia, (familiar spirit),

Thank you for your response. I shall ponder it now, but just wanted to pop in to let you know I was still here.

No doubt your seed is still growing and now even producing.

Now, your answer has truly spoken to my boredom as my mind is busy trying to figure out
how to begin implementing that wisdom, being that no one asked me a question! lol

It's quite funny.

You have a magical way of dealing with people!

Great Love.

We are "grander" than parents! cool


Good nite my beloved new friends Julia, and Laura.

I am so glad that Adrian directed me here.  I have chosen as Laura percieved...to go back to my small hometown after many years and many experiences away from this place. There is NOTHING here.

It's almost the same way a cat goes and hides away from site to lick it's wounds in privacy.

Yes, it was "relationship oriented" healing ... so as not to make anyone guess.

I came out of a world where there was so much metaphysical activity all around me... and went back into a world where the most spirituality available is a pentecostal church with 10 members which I have been frequenting weekly, it is pastored by my grandparents... interestingly.

It is where I started, but yet so far removed from who I've become in 20 years away from this place.

The sense of relflective enlightenment I expected turned out be very dull, and un enlightening. However I have definitely worked through the hurt of the lost relationship in this time and have licked my wounds.

Coming upon this forum was so wonderful, because there isnt a metaphysical believer in site here in this town.

I have been thinking of moving back to the big city, but this forum looks like a nice society to participate in that may post pone my anxiousness to some degree.

Good night my new loving friends. It's good to be back in the presence of some people I can relate to.

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of your experience.

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« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2009, 02:12:47 »

Hi Kadense ~ nga and Laura ~


No doubt your seed is still growing and now even producing.

It's quite funny.

You have a magical way of dealing with people!

Great Love.

We are "grander" than parents! cool



Beloved Laura ~ Kiss and hugs tucking you within in SWEET Dreams Knowing ALL is WELL Always ~ I love you Sister just as you are ~!

I live in Magickal realms ~ So you do see and notice. It's when we 'forget' this that life becomes 'boring'. We are called to IN Joy the Silence and Peaceful ness (essense ~ Spirit) Standing on the edge and ready and willing to . . .

JUMP!! LOL!! Yes! Just like children... watch how they express, they are so in it and here in it!! As we are . . .

Eyes Wide Open ~

Trusting in the Joyous Expectation of our good (GOD Presence).

So, on that note, InJoy the quiet. . . It is always quiet before the storm ... wink

Love in Divine Spirit Energy to All ~

Julia through the open door

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In Joy being naked and vulnerable. My children (grand and all) cannot get out of their clothes fast enough!! Proudly announcing to all ~ 'I LOVE Being naked!!'. Laugher follows by themself and all who are PRESENT... who can argue with this? hmmm... Be your naked ass SELF and IN JOY IT ~
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« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2009, 02:22:25 »

My bare naked ass self?

Better watch being naked... I "touched myself" writing the post above. Dont want to make that a habit for sure....lol

Is this what you mean by responding profanely?

I am ready for the STOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRMMMM!!

Cmon let it pour, let it rain!!!

Let it refresh our souls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe I can be a part of the rain that refreshes yours and all here!!


Oh!

I feel so renewed being a part of this as of today!

and excited. Yes. Like my grandson! He doesn't want to sleep, he wants to PLAY!!!!

As you say, he wants to jump in with both feet!

There is much to read but I want to PARTICIPATE!!! I want to PLAY!!!

You are right Julia...bare ass naked !!! YAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! Who cares?

You would not believe the atmosphere of judgement that exists within most religious people. The ones I have somehow become surrounded by.

I love them dearlt, and at first I felt compassion for them, then judgement for their ignorance...and finally acceptance that the parameters they choose to live by help them to contain a sense of "God"...

Truly it's better than no sense of God at all...

Now I only accept and love, and try not to offend with my thinking...

I am so happy that I found a place where my thinking can be welcome, and where I can be fed by thoughts from others who are like minded once again!

I love you ALL!

Julia, I will go to bed thankful for you, and also you Laura this nite, and for Adrian sending me here!

Sweet dreams!

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« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2009, 02:42:57 »

LOL!! cheesy

Can you hear what I hear?

The Heavens Roar as in Leo the Lion!!

My grand daughter Aleena is Leo today she is formally known as 3...

Happy 3 day Aleena and don't forget to Invite Kandens nga and Kandense to our party!!

Everyone else is already invited, just show up!!

Kiss and hugs and sweet dreams...

Oh, and as to touching yourself well ~ it is about knowing oneself who else can do that for you? So now, you can order straight from the menu instead of eating from another's idea of what good food is . . .

just my thoughts exposing my deepest belief ~ wink

Nighty night all, it's morning in other parts of the world, so while I nap, you stand watch and so IT goes...

All is Well Always with True Intentions ~

Julia through the OPEN Door ~ Come on IN
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