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« on: September 04, 2008, 11:02:56 »

Hi All,
Your views, inspirations, insightful and incisive words are called upon and without hesitation. This topic has branched off out of the Topics “LOA Anything a tall?!!!” and “Where does the Soul-Spirit reside?” among others. It tries to unmask and answer the question; - How do I contact “The Universal Mind”? 

Adrian and Julia appear to agree quite a lot on these issues. However, none of them has actually answered the question; - How do I contact “The Universal Mind”? 

In “Where does the Soul-Spirit reside?” Adrian says;-

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The Universal Mind[/b]: This is the Supreme Mind - the First Cause, some may call “God” or “the father”, in which everything and everyone has Its Being.

The Universal Mind is the Supreme Energy Field, and everything and everyone else resides as an Energy field with Its own unique vibration and manifestation of Mind within the great Energy field.

Aha!!. So if so powerful how then do we contact it?.

In the “Science of Being in Twenty Seven Lessons” we are taught how to contact “The Universal Life Energy”.

I have been doing this since I got hold of the book and I can say here & now that when I have contacted “The Universal Life Energy”, I can tell from the energies experienced.

Or are they the same i.e. “The Universal Life Energy” is the same as “The Universal Mind”.

In “LOA Anything a tall?!!!” Adrian’s  says;-
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My advice is that if you want something doing quickly and powerfully, and it is pure, then do so as Universal Mind and not, as most books teach, through the Subconscious Mind.

Humans should not even have a Subconscious Mind. The Subconscious Mind is actually part of the original Conscious Mind that has been rendered Subconscious by the Ego.

Three questions arise out of Adrian’s statement;-
1.   How do you tell if ones desires are pure?
2.   Are we to ignore the same very “infinitely powerful “Subconscious Mind”?
3.   Back to the original question. How then do we contact “The Universal Mind”?

I do not know about YOU, but I feel that further clarification in these issues is called for.
While I do agree with the statement that “We all create our own Reality”. It would appear that this actually happens “Subconsciously”.  I have been trying to create my reality consciously for the last one year. This has NOT happened. And I can assure you that I am not doing it on OUTO PILOT. And two years is NOT two days.



Love & Peace to All.

Kendar
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 14:08:26 »

Hello Everyone ~  cool

Hi Kendar, I can only speak for myself as you invited me to. I am highlighting the portions of your post to allow you to consider openly what I am sharing here openly with you and all others. You decide my friend.

Hi All,

Your views, inspirations, insightful and incisive words are called upon and without hesitation. This topic has branched off out of the Topics “LOA Anything a tall?!!!” and “Where does the Soul-Spirit reside?” among others. It tries to unmask and answer the question; - How do I contact “The Universal Mind”? 


Adrian and Julia appear to agree quite a lot on these issues. However, none of them has actually answered the question; - How do I contact “The Universal Mind”?   



In “Where does the Soul-Spirit reside?” Adrian says;-

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The Universal Mind[/b]: This is the Supreme Mind - the First Cause, some may call “God” or “the father”, in which everything and everyone has Its Being. /b]



It's  In You Being Now, Kendar. It's just when you decide to accept this.
Truth. If you are still asking then you are still 'looking' for what and whom you are and are coming from. Why, You're right here!! If this were not so, they how 'could' you be alive in this moment? Why are you aware of Being alive? Where is this awareness coming from? Inside of you Kendar. Don't think about it, Be the Energy 'feeling'...stay with it.


I hope this is clearing things up a little... smiley


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The Universal Mind is the Supreme Energy Field, and everything and everyone else resides as an Energy field with Its own unique vibration and manifestation of Mind within the great Energy field.

Aha!!. So if so powerful how then do we contact it?.[/i]


You are receiving (reflecting) 'back' the message you are 'sending'. You know, prove something to me. How am I seeing this? Again, by this statement you have expressed;

Aha!!. So if so powerful how then do we contact it?.

Already (all ready) doubting the power of you. How?

If ... not IS ...

Not show me, open me, tell me what I need to know in this moment. Doesn't seem to work when one is straining for an answer. That belies an unbelief. Trying. Not Being so powerful because you realize you already are the power connected to All power.



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In the “Science of Being in Twenty Seven Lessons” we are taught how to contact “The Universal Life Energy”.

I have been doing this since I got hold of the book and I can say here & now that when I have contacted “The Universal Life Energy”, I can tell from the energies experienced.

Or are they the same i.e. “The Universal Life Energy” is the same as “The Universal Mind”.

In “LOA Anything a tall?!!!” Adrian’s  says;-

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My advice is that if you want something doing quickly and powerfully, and it is pure, then do so as Universal Mind and not, as most books teach, through the Subconscious Mind.

Humans should not even have a Subconscious Mind. The Subconscious Mind is actually part of the original Conscious Mind that has been rendered Subconscious by the Ego.

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Three questions arise out of Adrian’s statement;-

1.   How do you tell if ones desires are pure?


1. Question. How do you tell when ones desires are pure? Which 'way' of thinking is doing the leading? Balance Heart and Mind with Spirit, expresses the outcome (what you are 'seeing), the inspired breath of love. However, what has 'worked' for me is to Listen to my Heart first and then listen to my mind. cool Do you feel peace or unrest?


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2.Are we to ignore the same very “infinitely powerful “Subconscious Mind”?


2. How can we? It is there as is the Conscious Mind and Universal Mind. For myself, it has been a matter of putting 'things' into  'right order'. Divine Order is  Heart, Spirit, Mind. Spirit is in the center and balancing. It balances because all is in circled in every which way. In every possible 'direction'. It permeates Heart and Mind. We just forget the 'proper' order of things.

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3.   Back to the original question. How then do we contact “The Universal Mind”?

3. I believe I have shared what works for me. And yes, Kendar, some people spend their whole lives on this quest. Stop. Be Still and Listen. Follow your heart, your mind cooperates equally when encircled in Spirit Energy.


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I do not know about YOU, but I feel that further clarification in these issues is called for.
While I do agree with the statement that “We all create our own Reality”. It would appear that this actually happens “Subconsciously”.  I have been trying to create my reality consciously for the last one year. This has NOT happened. And I can assure you that I am not doing it on OUTO PILOT. And two years is NOT two days.



Love & Peace to All.

Kendar


I ask you to consider something in this statement, Kendar. You seem to mention 'time' factors. I assure you here Kendar, that while I am not speaking for any others here. There are many in this particular room who have been applying consciously for more that one or two years. And are where they are now because they didn't 'give up' on it. Trust me, many opportunities to do so. But we knew as you are growing in your knowing,  one chooses not to Be It. It's a choice until you stop 'looking' for it outside of yourself somewhere. If you were not looking then you would Be known. Truth. Be patient and grow in your trust.


"Know thyself and you will know All." Author Unknown


Thank you for listening Kendar and All,

Love In Divine Spirit,


Julia
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 16:37:11 »

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Three questions arise out of Adrian’s statement;-
1.   How do you tell if ones desires are pure?
2.   Are we to ignore the same very “infinitely powerful “Subconscious Mind”?
3.   Back to the original question. How then do we contact “The Universal Mind”?

I do not know about YOU, but I feel that further clarification in these issues is called for.
While I do agree with the statement that “We all create our own Reality”. It would appear that this actually happens “Subconsciously”.  I have been trying to create my reality consciously for the last one year. This has NOT happened. And I can assure you that I am not doing it on OUTO PILOT. And two years is NOT two days.

Love & Peace to All.

Kendar

Hello Kendar and All,

To the degree that I've experienced creating my reality, can only offer what worked for me, in some way, shape or form.

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1.   How do you tell if ones desires are pure?
If no deliberate harm to any is in place, worry not about the purity.

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2.   Are we to ignore the same very “infinitely powerful “Subconscious Mind”?
The infinitely powerful  Subconscious Mind, responds to ones 'belief' factors, and from experience, will only say, 'many have no idea what their belief factors are'.

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3.   Back to the original question. How then do we contact “The Universal Mind”?
Not being trite here, very serious, 'Just start talking to it'. Will be no bells ringing, no flashing lights, no neon signs or sounds indicating that 'contact' is made. Do listen though, to what you are hearing or seeing internally. That is where contact takes place.

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I have been trying to create my reality consciously for the last one year. This has NOT happened
Again, not being trite here, very, very serious here. Review what you are doing to materialize your intents. You may be trying to hard. You may have, perhaps forgotten, to 'release it the Universe' and just let it happen. You may not have 'CLEARLY' stated your intents and desires. For some, the process easily floods the person doing the 'creating'. Others, myself included, had to work hard with a review through introspection, on what belief or beliefs were doing the 'block'. Numerous posts with a tad of imagination, can be altered to do the process needed to be successful. There is 'NO ONE WAY' to get it done.
Until the 'blocks' are handled, and emotions are corrected, is when things start to properly jell.
Best of success to you.
Be Well

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/getting-out-of-debt-t765.0.html;msg6268#msg6268

http://thetalker.org/archives/284/law-of-attraction/

http://thetalker.org/archives/368/37-talker-on-the-chakras/
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 08:33:56 »

Dear Julia.

Thanks for your response.

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It's In You Being Now, Kendar. It's just when you decide to accept this.
Truth. If you are still asking then you are still 'looking' for what and whom you are and are coming from. Why, You're right here!! If this were not so, they how 'could' you be alive in this moment? Why are you aware of Being alive? Where is this awareness coming from? Inside of you Kendar. Don't think about it, Be the Energy 'feeling'...stay with it.

Yes Julia, I know I am a Spiritual Infinite Being having a human experience. I know being human with consciousness, that I am alive. Yes this awareness comes from within. I also know that I am an “Energy field” within the “Supreme Energy Field”. After all, ALL is Energy.

If I am an “Energy field” within the “Supreme Energy Field” which really is “The Universal Mind”, then are you saying that I do not need to contact it?

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1. Question. How do you tell when ones desires are pure? Which 'way' of thinking is doing the leading? Balance Heart and Mind with Spirit, expresses the outcome (what you are 'seeing), the inspired breath of love. However, what has 'worked' for me is to Listen to my Heart first and then listen to my mind.  Do you feel peace or unrest?

Thanks Julia. This answers the question on purity. There is no doubt about it.

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2. How can we? It is there as is the Conscious Mind and Universal Mind. For me, it has been a matter of putting 'things' into 'right order'. Divine Order is Heart, Spirit, Mind. Spirit is in the center and balancing. It balances because all is in circled in every which way. In every possible 'direction'. It permeates Heart and Mind. We just forget the 'proper' order of things.

3. I believe I have shared what works for me. And yes, Kendar, some people spend their whole lives on this quest. Stop. Be Still and Listen. Follow your heart, your mind cooperates equally when encircled in Spirit Energy.

Thanks for this insight. However, a little clarification is called for. How do you tell when you are getting information from your Heart? I know the Heart is the centre of all our emotions. Do you then know when they are positive vibrations?

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I ask you to consider something in this statement, Kendar. You seem to mention 'time' factors. I assure you here Kendar, that while I am not speaking for any others here. There are many in this particular room who have been applying consciously for more that one or two years. And are where they are now because they didn't 'give up' on it. Trust me, many opportunities to do so. But we knew as you are growing in your knowing, one chooses not to Be It. It's a choice until you stop 'looking' for it outside of yourself somewhere. If you were not looking then you would Be known. Truth. Be patient and grow in your trust.

"Know thyself and you will know All." Author Unknown

Thanks again Julia. I’ll keep on.

Peace & Love to All

Kendar
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 08:38:21 »

Dear Talker,

Thanks for your response.

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Ah yes, the confusing episodes one can go through in life.
If only the process of 'attraction' were so simple as some say. The belief factor, I believe is the glitch in the methods advocated by many. The book 'Secret of The Ages' goes a long way in creating a good  basis in beliefs.
With a bit of modification, concept wise, you may find what you desiring to accomplish, in the listed posts. Seems that all the loop holes need to be closed. Otherwise how can a desire be fulfilled if there are far to many loop holes still open. Desire, intent, and faith are quite the mix, just like preparing a meal, leave out a specific, and that specific may just make a mess of the meal.
Be Well

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The infinitely powerful  Subconscious Mind, responds to ones 'belief' factors, and from experience, will only say, 'many have no idea what their belief factors are'.

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Again, not being trite here, very, very serious here. Review what you are doing to materialize your intents. You may be trying to hard. You may have, perhaps forgotten, to 'release it the Universe' and just let it happen. You may not have 'CLEARLY' stated your intents and desires. For some, the process easily floods the person doing the 'creating'. Others, myself included, had to work hard with a review through introspection, on what belief or beliefs were doing the 'block'. Numerous posts with a tad of imagination, can be altered to do the process needed to be successful. There is 'NO ONE WAY' to get it done.
Until the 'blocks' are handled, and emotions are corrected, is when things start to properly jell.
Best of success to you.
Be Well

Talker, how would one know their “belief factors” if these are performed Subconsciously?

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Not being trite here, very serious, 'Just start talking to it'. Will be no bells ringing, no flashing lights, no neon signs or sounds indicating that 'contact' is made. Do listen though, to what you are hearing or seeing internally. That is where contact takes place.

Talker, would you say that The Universal Life Energy is the same as The Universal Mind?

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Again, not being trite here, very, very serious here. Review what you are doing to materialize your intents. You may be trying to hard. You may have, perhaps forgotten, to 'release it the Universe' and just let it happen. You may not have 'CLEARLY' stated your intents and desires. For some, the process easily floods the person doing the 'creating'. Others, myself included, had to work hard with a review through introspection, on what belief or beliefs were doing the 'block'. Numerous posts with a tad of imagination, can be altered to do the process needed to be successful. There is 'NO ONE WAY' to get it done.
Until the 'blocks' are handled, and emotions are corrected, is when things start to properly jell.
Best of success to you.
Be Well

Let us assume that the intents and desires have been 'CLEARLY' stated. As I understand it “release it to the Universe” means let go. How would you advise one to do this?

Thanks Talker for giving the links. It is quite a bit of reading and I assure you that I’ll continue reading all of them.

Peace & Love to All

Kendar
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2008, 12:36:24 »

Good Morning Kendar and All ~ cool

You are most welcome. I appreciate you Kendar.

Dear Julia.

Thanks for your response.

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It's In You Being Now, Kendar. It's just when you decide to accept this.
Truth. If you are still asking then you are still 'looking' for what and whom you are and are coming from. Why, You're right here!! If this were not so, they how 'could' you be alive in this moment? Why are you aware of Being alive? Where is this awareness coming from? Inside of you Kendar. Don't think about it, Be the Energy 'feeling'...stay with it.

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Yes Julia, I know I am a Spiritual Infinite Being having a human experience. I know being human with consciousness, that I am alive. Yes this awareness comes from within. I also know that I am an “Energy field” within the “Supreme Energy Field”. After all, ALL is Energy.

If I am an “Energy field” within the “Supreme Energy Field” which really is “The Universal Mind”, then are you saying that I do not need to contact it?


I am sharing with you here that you already are in contact with IT. The only 'thing' that 'needs' to change is our perception. Not so much about 'getting there' but knowing you are already Being here.

When we come to this realization, we naturally are 'changed' and so everything around us must change to align with our Energy vibration. The level we are living from. You are not in the same place you were one or two years ago. What 'awakened' you to the idea that there was something more to all this?...and here you are now... wink


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1. Question. How do you tell when ones desires are pure? Which 'way' of thinking is doing the leading? Balance Heart and Mind with Spirit, expresses the outcome (what you are 'seeing), the inspired breath of love. However, what has 'worked' for me is to Listen to my Heart first and then listen to my mind.  Do you feel peace or unrest?

Thanks Julia. This answers the question on purity. There is no doubt about it.

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2. How can we? It is there as is the Conscious Mind and Universal Mind. For me, it has been a matter of putting 'things' into 'right order'. Divine Order is Heart, Spirit, Mind. Spirit is in the center and balancing. It balances because all is in circled in every which way. In every possible 'direction'. It permeates Heart and Mind. We just forget the 'proper' order of things.

3. I believe I have shared what works for me. And yes, Kendar, some people spend their whole lives on this quest. Stop. Be Still and Listen. Follow your heart, your mind cooperates equally when encircled in Spirit Energy.


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Thanks for this insight. However, a little clarification is called for. How do you tell when you are getting information from your Heart? I know the Heart is the centre of all our emotions. Do you then know when they are positive vibrations?

Has anything ever happened to you and you get this sensation vibrating throughout your entire Being? A sense of joy overflowing from within? A hard to put into words moment? More of a childlike expression of wonder and awe. 'WOW!!' Children are a wonderful example, re - minder, re-membrance of this.

At Christmas for example, children's faces exude wonder, excitement and joyful expectation before the gifts are ever opened. They know and are excited beyond words at what is 'coming'. They know it, they feel it and their entire bodies radiate it. You have witnessed this yes? They then experience it by the opening of their gifts. Do you remember things like this, in having a similar experience of something you thought about and perhaps 'forgot' about and then it 'showed up'. And you in that moment were 're-minded' of having the thought cross your mind. Cross your mind not laboring over how you were going to get it?

Have you ever experienced a deep gut sensation of something about to happen and when it does, it leaves you not feeling the wonder? A Psst!! Pay attention from your Higher Self. All these type of experiences mean to me is that I am being shown something deeply hidden and it is being brought to the Light for closer examination. Wow! That's a wonderful acknowledgement that 'Someone' is looking out for me. And wants me to be free to Be.

Does this help Kendar?

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I ask you to consider something in this statement, Kendar. You seem to mention 'time' factors. I assure you here Kendar, that while I am not speaking for any others here. There are many in this particular room who have been applying consciously for more that one or two years. And are where they are now because they didn't 'give up' on it. Trust me, many opportunities to do so. But we knew as you are growing in your knowing, one chooses not to Be It. It's a choice until you stop 'looking' for it outside of yourself somewhere. If you were not looking then you would Be known. Truth. Be patient and grow in your trust.

"Know thyself and you will know All." Author Unknown

Thanks again Julia. I’ll keep on.

Peace & Love to All

Kendar



I am InJoying your growing Kendar, it assists me as well. smiley

Love to you and All, InJoy this day in Peace,


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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2008, 13:23:05 »

Dear Talker,
Thanks for your response.
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Ah yes, the confusing episodes one can go through in life.
If only the process of 'attraction' were so simple as some say. The belief factor, I believe is the glitch in the methods advocated by many. The book 'Secret of The Ages' goes a long way in creating a good  basis in beliefs.
With a bit of modification, concept wise, you may find what you desiring to accomplish, in the listed posts. Seems that all the loop holes need to be closed. Otherwise how can a desire be fulfilled if there are far to many loop holes still open. Desire, intent, and faith are quite the mix, just like preparing a meal, leave out a specific, and that specific may just make a mess of the meal.
Be Well
Quote
The infinitely powerful  Subconscious Mind, responds to ones 'belief' factors, and from experience, will only say, 'many have no idea what their belief factors are'.
Quote
Again, not being trite here, very, very serious here. Review what you are doing to materialize your intents. You may be trying to hard. You may have, perhaps forgotten, to 'release it the Universe' and just let it happen. You may not have 'CLEARLY' stated your intents and desires. For some, the process easily floods the person doing the 'creating'. Others, myself included, had to work hard with a review through introspection, on what belief or beliefs were doing the 'block'. Numerous posts with a tad of imagination, can be altered to do the process needed to be successful. There is 'NO ONE WAY' to get it done.
Until the 'blocks' are handled, and emotions are corrected, is when things start to properly jell.
Best of success to you.
Be Well
Talker, how would one know their “belief factors” if these are performed Subconsciously?
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Not being trite here, very serious, 'Just start talking to it'. Will be no bells ringing, no flashing lights, no neon signs or sounds indicating that 'contact' is made. Do listen though, to what you are hearing or seeing internally. That is where contact takes place.
Talker, would you say that The Universal Life Energy is the same as The Universal Mind?
Quote
Again, not being trite here, very, very serious here. Review what you are doing to materialize your intents. You may be trying to hard. You may have, perhaps forgotten, to 'release it the Universe' and just let it happen. You may not have 'CLEARLY' stated your intents and desires. For some, the process easily floods the person doing the 'creating'. Others, myself included, had to work hard with a review through introspection, on what belief or beliefs were doing the 'block'. Numerous posts with a tad of imagination, can be altered to do the process needed to be successful. There is 'NO ONE WAY' to get it done.
Until the 'blocks' are handled, and emotions are corrected, is when things start to properly jell.
Best of success to you.
Be Well
Let us assume that the intents and desires have been 'CLEARLY' stated. As I understand it “release it to the Universe” means let go. How would you advise one to do this?
Thanks Talker for giving the links. It is quite a bit of reading and I assure you that I’ll continue reading all of them.
Peace & Love to All

Kendar

Hello Kendar and All,
While I can only state here what I think and believe, is valid, regards your
questions, they are what has in one form or another, commenced giving results.
Fantastic results, no, but results that WERE from my personal efforts, indicating
that the process does indeed 'WORK'. That in and by itself is fantastic. Slowly, as
I came to recognize that 'beliefs' were indeed the 'blocking of success' factor,
went to work on finding out 'what are my real  beliefs'. This is, as I often call it
the 'tanglefoot' area in ones efforts. So, as the saying goes, 'if you want to know
what your belief factors are, just look around and at, what is in your life'. This
aspect is hard to fully comprehend, but is a fact that must be dwelt with.
Otherwise it is always 'same old, same old', always taking place. Horrendous
thoughts of people caught up in the tanglefoot of wars, death camps, genocide
and you name it, terrible things, that happen and one does 'wonder'. If 'nothing'
happens by accident, then individuals, and group souls are caught up in a 'human
construct' that begs correction. (Much more is involved with that thought, but will
leave it for now.) Cant be two ways, either ones beliefs and group soul beliefs are
creating certain conditions, or they are not. If beliefs can determine 'what
happens' at the personal level, with any degree of success, than all the negative
things in the world follow that same principle.

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Talker, how would one know their “belief factors” if these are performed
Subconsciously?
First, lets correct that thought, 'beliefs' are NOT instituted or created by the
subconscious. The subconscious ACTS upon the beliefs, bringing them into
fruition. The subconscious does NOT create ones beliefs. Those things referred to
as the conscious, subconscious, low-self, middle-self, and high-self aspects of
'Being' are mostly misunderstood. While they are individual energies, they
intermingle, but ARE ALL one energy called 'I', blended in with what we generally
call the 'Source' and or 'God'. Numerous of my blog posts, reference a 'Babbler',
and than takes off into many areas of the 'how and what' of beliefs. Part of ones
belief factors sets in during childhood and progresses along, CREATING more beliefs as
we mature. So in essence one does contribute heavily to the 'good, and the not
so good' beliefs. Could list various ways to help determine belief factors, but
wont. Will suggest though, that you use the 'OUR' forum, pick out any topic, and
start asking questions and actually writing them down for reference. Questions
like: Is this true!, Do I believe the statement! Why is it harmonious or
inharmonious!, Is it God or man based! Do I feel it true or as false!.Winnowing
through the comments and posts is an excellent way of getting a handle on your
own beliefs.

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Talker, would you say that The Universal Life Energy is the same as The
Universal Mind?
Of course what I say here is only my opinion and belief, and may or may not be
'Truth' for any other. What matters though, is how you resonate with my truth, or
any others 'truth'. So here it is. Yes, 'The Universal Life Energy and The Universal
Mind' ARE one and the same energy, with various degrees of 'focus intensity'
applied. Awareness and mans need to 'name' things, is what contributes to mans
confusion of 'what is reality'. Oh well, could be wrong.

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Let us assume that the intents and desires have been 'CLEARLY' stated.
As I understand it “release it to the Universe” means let go. How would you
advise one to do this?
Kendar
Treat the whole situation the same as you would do, if sending a postal letter.
Insert the bill or note into the envelope, address the envelope, seal it, stick a
stamp on it, and put it in a mail box and walk away. Some what simple process,
isn't it! OOps, did I sign the check in the envelope! Do I have enough funds in the
bank to cover it! Is the address correct! Did I miss a specific detail! Same with
sending the desired intent and desired thing, BUT with one major consideration.
What is being released to the Universe, MUST BE sent as a 'THANK YOU' for what
WAS received, and 'not' for what I would like to receive. Here is the tanglefoot
part, converting the 'inner self' to KNOWING it has happened, because that inner
babbler is laughing and mocking you at the silliness of what is being done.  Once
one starts to 'wonder' if it (what ever it is) will materialize, you effectively wipe it
out, zero it, cancel it, and than question 'why' it didn't happen. Easy to say, but
'believe it has happened', give 'thanks' for having received it, and now forget it.
This forum has many clues and details that will help.
Be Well
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 15:09:27 »

First of all it is "Do or do not, there is no try ~Yoda"

Second of all I understand where Kendar is coming from! I am sick of using this LOA for 4 damn years and nothing has happened!!!!!!!! The one thing I want is something that I might never have. I bought Mind Power Studios, I bought The Science of Being, I did everything Adrian said in his book on LOA and NOTHING! How can I remain positive?
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 15:14:16 »

Please forgive the misquote.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2008, 15:24:31 »

It is OK, but I think I just found something just now.

http://www.healing-tao.com/dark_room/DarkRoom.pdf

Unless you convert some hormones in the brain you can't connect with the divine & have everything you ever wanted I guess.

I practice detachment you know... I only want a few things but it is so hard. I tried everything, why has NOTHING happened? I feel like I am just wasting my life using this Law of Attraction thing. If I keep using it wouldn't that make me insane? For how long can you have faith while nothing happened before you come to your senses and stop having faith? I feel so frustrated, I HAD faith for so long, I believed and still NOTHING!
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2008, 15:58:36 »

Hi Wave ~ cool

Just holding your hand here. Stand with me and observe the 'words you are using here...' Truth Wave. I am not picking on you. I desire to share the benefits of writing things down so one can view their position in these things.

As Julia Cameron stated, 'Writing, rights things'. wink Gets it out into the open and ones awareness so one can continue to shift the degrees of the experience until one becomes 'Centered' or 'zero' in emotions about things. All you have to do here is print out all your statements and ask before observing to be shown where your blocks are. That's all. Here, let's highlight some 'words or terms' used in your statement here:


It is OK, but I think I just found something just now.

http://www.healing-tao.com/dark_room/DarkRoom.pdf

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Unless you convert some hormones in the brain you can't connect with the divine & have everything you ever wanted I guess.


The bridge...merges heart and mind within Spirit. Go over and beyond this statement Wave. Truth. How?

I  invite you to play a game. Put everything you are reading and studying away for awhile and just be without them. See what happens. Keep asking the questions and yes, I know you are too lazy (your own admission) to write however, you are not too lazy to write in here. Do this for Wave. If you put all these 'things' away for awhile then you would have 'time' to write out your streams for your observation. The 'hidden' thoughts float up and are revealed on the written page. Try it for a month. Then, bring out the things your Higher Self is prompting you to 'use' in the moment. They will speak to you 'differently'. wink



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I practice detachment you know... I only want a few things but it is so hard. I tried everything, why has NOTHING happened? I feel like I am just wasting my life using this Law of Attraction thing. If I keep using it wouldn't that make me insane? For how long can you have faith while nothing happened before you come to your senses and stop having faith? I feel so frustrated, I HAD faith for so long, I believed and still NOTHING!


Okay, well, there is a saying that, 'Faith is the substance of things 'hoped' for, the evidence of things not seen.'

Keep the faith Wave, it is this very frustration that will bring you to stopping. Truth. And just Being. Truth.

Look at your statements above here. See? Writing allows one to see what is rising from the depths. The hidden thoughts of unbelief, doubt and unworthiness. I ask you to consider here. How would you define your statements? Would you define them as believing, Trusting and accepting your worthiness no matter what?

I truly share this with you in the Spirit of Love. And ask only that you would consider these things.

Love to you Wave and All here,

Julia


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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2008, 16:05:13 »

Hello My Friend,

Your frustration is intense. I can truly empathize with you Wave.

I sense perhaps your the victim here of too much knowledge, too many avenues being explored at once. The details often lead us astray of our original objectives and desires.
I suffered this for a long time.
May I suggest some thing here, first off, take some time and forget about this for now. Relax however you do so, meditate, walk, whatever makes you happy.
I belong to some Secret sites, the ones I find strengthening like energy are those of people writing about their own experiences with LOA, not their frustrations with it, but their success, this puts you into an energy field of those that made it work for them.
You seem very engrossed in the ' how ' of it, and this is where I sense your frustration is sourced.

.http://thesecret.tv/secret-treasures-stories.html

This site is filled with success stories and uplifting. I do not focus on the how anymore, there are too many people telling everyone how.
Although before I replied, I reviewed Adrian's book on this, and it seems sound without telling you an exact process you MUST follow as so many others do.

Most LOA groups succeed by the virtue of like energies coming together to become stronger. As when I was developing my psychic abilities I spent time with many psychics. I was not there for the advice or instruction,just the energy.

WithIn Love

Darrell

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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2008, 14:25:08 »

Thank you so much Julia and Darrell, I was in a very bad mood yesterday, I just didn't feel like I was getting anywhere. Today I am more Positive yet the Frustration still remains.

Hi Wave ~ cool

Just holding your hand here. Stand with me and observe the 'words you are using here...' Truth Wave. I am not picking on you. I desire to share the benefits of writing things down so one can view their position in these things.

As Julia Cameron stated, 'Writing, rights things'. wink Gets it out into the open and ones awareness so one can continue to shift the degrees of the experience until one becomes 'Centered' or 'zero' in emotions about things. All you have to do here is print out all your statements and ask before observing to be shown where your blocks are. That's all. Here, let's highlight some 'words or terms' used in your statement here:


It is OK, but I think I just found something just now.

http://www.healing-tao.com/dark_room/DarkRoom.pdf

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Unless you convert some hormones in the brain you can't connect with the divine & have everything you ever wanted I guess.


The bridge...merges heart and mind within Spirit. Go over and beyond this statement Wave. Truth. How?

I  invite you to play a game. Put everything you are reading and studying away for awhile and just be without them. See what happens. Keep asking the questions and yes, I know you are too lazy (your own admission) to write however, you are not too lazy to write in here. Do this for Wave. If you put all these 'things' away for awhile then you would have 'time' to write out your streams for your observation. The 'hidden' thoughts float up and are revealed on the written page. Try it for a month. Then, bring out the things your Higher Self is prompting you to 'use' in the moment. They will speak to you 'differently'. wink



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I practice detachment you know... I only want a few things but it is so hard. I tried everything, why has NOTHING happened? I feel like I am just wasting my life using this Law of Attraction thing. If I keep using it wouldn't that make me insane? For how long can you have faith while nothing happened before you come to your senses and stop having faith? I feel so frustrated, I HAD faith for so long, I believed and still NOTHING!


Okay, well, there is a saying that, 'Faith is the substance of things 'hoped' for, the evidence of things not seen.'

Keep the faith Wave, it is this very frustration that will bring you to stopping. Truth. And just Being. Truth.

Look at your statements above here. See? Writing allows one to see what is rising from the depths. The hidden thoughts of unbelief, doubt and unworthiness. I ask you to consider here. How would you define your statements? Would you define them as believing, Trusting and accepting your worthiness no matter what?

I truly share this with you in the Spirit of Love. And ask only that you would consider these things.

Love to you Wave and All here,

Julia

This sounds like it could help me out a lot, but I just don't know how to do this. Wouldn't I have to think negative to write like this? I do not like what I wrote up there. If I am not believe I am at least trying to believe, what else can I do?

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Hello My Friend,

Your frustration is intense. I can truly empathize with you Wave.

I sense perhaps your the victim here of too much knowledge, too many avenues being explored at once. The details often lead us astray of our original objectives and desires.
I suffered this for a long time.
May I suggest some thing here, first off, take some time and forget about this for now. Relax however you do so, meditate, walk, whatever makes you happy.
I belong to some Secret sites, the ones I find strengthening like energy are those of people writing about their own experiences with LOA, not their frustrations with it, but their success, this puts you into an energy field of those that made it work for them.
You seem very engrossed in the ' how ' of it, and this is where I sense your frustration is sourced.

Perhaps I am looking to hard for how to do this. I try to leave it up to the Source, I connect with the All, thank it and say its done because of you. Then mouths go by and my hair doesn't even grow in any at all. I say to the Source and my Angles & use affirmations that my Prostate is in perfect health and my hair still doesn't grow back. If its true that if my hair doesn't grow back that means I'll have prostate cancer when I am older! I can't live like this, I want to look how I want to. I don't really think about how the Source will fix it but maybe it is wrong to think about what I should be doing to change things.

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This site is filled with success stories and uplifting. I do not focus on the how anymore, there are too many people telling everyone how.
Although before I replied, I reviewed Adrian's book on this, and it seems sound without telling you an exact process you MUST follow as so many others do.

Most LOA groups succeed by the virtue of like energies coming together to become stronger. As when I was developing my psychic abilities I spent time with many psychics. I was not there for the advice or instruction,just the energy.

That is a very good idea, I want Psychic Power so much, I should be around others who do psychic stuff. I feel as though my environment is bad for my success. I can't just change the way I look when I live with people who know me. Jesus couldn't do miracles in his home town. No one would expect me to just look different. Should I leave and go off on my own then?

Thank you both for helping me, ugh I can feel my energy flow becoming restricted because of my Frustration.
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