consciousness projection as childcare

[Leila]

Dear John,

Your expression here is very enthusiastic and very, very loving. You remind me alot of My Self! - in my good days!

One of your posts of yesterday - as you have many - is somehow amusing for me in certain affirmations. Therefore, my answer will be also in a joking manner, to have some fun.

I miss the fun we used to have with our sisters Laura and Julia, about January, when we liked to tease our brothers and Friends here.

You talk about "cosmic ecstasy" in communing with like-minded souls here. Will "serve" you the reply I got from you: "I am glad to know that you feel so"!

This state makes you feel that you don't need a girlfriend at all. It's okay, you are perfectly in tune with the "seasoned" men of this community! . None of them needs a girlfriend, and you can read this throughout their posts. Only teenagers, like Roaring Springs work hardly with LOA to "attract" the big breasted girl of his dreams.

On the other hand, the ladies are not that insensitive at men's charm. At least I speak for myself, and dare to include Laura - as we have many common approaches to certain aspects of life. Julia seems much more detached, but she likes to play alot and tease and support others.

You make a stunning affirmation: "There was a female who came in my life a while back and taught me the lesson that I could still be wanted..."

For God's sake, Dear John, you are 40 years old, you are in your full youth! Why couldn't you be "wanted", in all ways?
As Adrian says, we all are already naturally very attractive, as we express the perfection of Source.

Has anything changed in your perception about yourself? Because of the 2 divorces? or perhaps because of your "old" age of 40? Goodness!

Being desired and desirable is not an attribute of physique, nor of age, but of the Spirit and energy. Spirit is pure Love, and likes to love in all ways.
People are lovable, desirable and desired as long as they live, not only before 40, or before becoming grandparents, LOL!
If you have doubts, ask the elders of this community! I know couple of men here very loved and highly desirable, and they are all past 50...Some rather far from it!
Neither the ladies stop loving after their thirties...

I got a picture from a Belgian friend, with his mother, 83 yr I believe, and her friend, with whom she reconnected recently. You would not believe what beautiful and distinguished they both look! I was truly amazed! They both radiate inner beauty, peace and love. Their spirits shine in the picture, and inspire Love.

Love makes us ageless. And love can be made in more than one way...

Goddesses Love the Gods here, and give thanks for their Presence!

Leila

[Kadensnga]

Funny Leila,

Don't get me wrong,

I feel plenty attractive...lol, I think I might even date myself if I was a female I'm told that I am very youthful for my age and very much full of hmmm..."vitality" shall we say...

I guess I would have a hard time describing to you what could cause the withdrawn feeling.

I Have been through...alot. There's a universe of variables there, but now I am coming out of it with this feeling that "I have much I want to accomplish with the next few years... and so I must travel light and be independent to get it all done... I vaguely see a woman perhaps 3 or 4 years from now, and having the love relationship of my life, the one like movies are made of! Yet again. Maybe... who knows, let us flow in this moment.

But to answer your question. yes I hurt in a more immense way than I myself can even imagine for two years... and I felt I had lost everything I had ever become, except for me and my daughters dignity... it was tough....I feel like I have passed the toughest test of my life..., and I will never be the same again.

I am having great fun with you, I love you friend. You are very funny. Yes I can play all in good fun, so tease away.

Good nite
John

Indeed. I am open to receive love and give it freely in all ways.

 

Also thank you for affirming to me that just because you see yourself now as a 'grandpa", you are still also an "individual" who can be desired and has desires also... mmm...desire. It tastes wonderful...I know there is a certain spiritual principle about not "wanting"... but wanting is truly the passion of life sometimes... perhaps that is the playful inward child who always wants to get into something "good"...

I think the difference is not "needing". Indeed, that is it... all the ferocious desire of youth with none of the "need"...it's perfect.

Ps. I can easily get carried away with humor... don't tempt me too much. We may both find ourselves embarrassed.   

[Leila]

Dear John,
 
Yes, I was in playful mood yesterday, and liked to tease you and the other wonderful men here! 
 
While your affirmation about "being wanted" required some "fixing", I took the chance to reassure and remind our male Friends, regardless of age, that they are lovable and desirable - which I'm sure they know and feel.

I understand you and all others very well, for wishing to be "single", independent, and enjoy total "freedom" of expression. We have all suffered of "being controlled" and "restricted" in our manifestation.
Unfortunately, even at this seemingly high level of consciousness, we still can't let go completely of our ego's requests, in our relationships, and this ultimately lowers our vibration, instead of rising it on heights and keeping it there permanently. It causes us to experience ups and downs, and not continuous blissful calmness.

It takes a true "holy relationship" to attain everlasting bliss. Many spiritual teachers preach us the divine approach of relationships, from the position of "not needing", full freedom of expression for both partners - but, as much as I know them, they are all "single", and not involved in such "holy relationship".

What is now clear for me, is the fact that relationships are the reflection of our inner beliefs and "relationships consciousness". When we are capable to remove our inside blocks, and open to, and accept our highest good, such divine partnership can be experienced. It can happen overnight, it's just a removing of the veil required.

Yes, being a "grandpa" of any age, has nothing to do with being lovable and desirable!

We replaced in our conversations "need" and "want" with "desire" - meaning that we choose to be together out of InJoying it - and it's all good. It can involve ferocious passion, as you say. We love words with sensuous sound, like desire, touch, sensation, entwine...

We, the spiritual members of this forum, released and expressed our innermost and worldly feelings, in a famous and highly popular topic about "lust" and "lustful", which greatly stirred the passions and desires to express.

I have no whatsoever intention to tempt and provoke you to let yourself "carried away" with humor, on contrary, I am keeping my expression under control, somehow, because of the previous experiences. I know that the power of my energy and love is tremendous, and it is the reason why you and others who resonate with me, feel my written words here "alive" and vibrant, pulsating through whole being of the reader.

It is because I put my heart in what I write, my words are "condensed Love" - the power which created the Universe and keeps it in perfect harmony.

We've been also through "embarrassing situations" and posts, you can find them in the forum. They were reactions and expression to Unconditional Love. They went so far, as we felt like deleting posts, for their offending nature.
But we agree that everything is spiritual, and all should be received with love and accepted as it is.

Dear John, I have no worries at all that you could ever embarrass me with your words. We are both made of same substance, delicacy and grace is our nature. We can only express tenderly and graciously.

My expression is only meant to declare that my "all inclusive" Love is still where it was "placed", unshaken by the adversities.

In Love and Light,

Leila 

[Kadensnga]

Your words are positively amazing...I am speechless.

Yet I must oblige such a considerate response.

I love the way we are free to express so beautifully here, but it is appropriate and, yes "desirable" (a wonderful word), to be tactful and considerate in our knowing that the greater mission of the forum is to attract those who seek to be enlightened and awakened to higher principles of spirituality... 'getting off' topic (lol) can severely damage the forums ability to do that. Especially in our knowing that the Internets attraction system is based on keywords... you can easily attract those who seek other things than spiritual knowledge 

Yet, I see in myself at moments, a certain need for conscious restraint, as I, like yourself would rather bare every drop of my soul freely...mind you this comes from a person who would love nothing more than to strip all of his clothes off and run bare naked across the whole planet ... (always consider the source my friend!) lol

Point:

It is appropriate that we speak a beautiful language so that we may only attract to this place that which is beautiful...

Great Love to you, and good morning.

John

By the way my friend, I have witnessed your moments of embarrassment reading through the threads, and I was you in them... there is no need for embarrassment, all is perfect.

[Leila]

Thank you all for the kind words - I learned humility in their essence. I like that most here speak as equals and same minds. One mind forming in the new grid - powerful we all are now.
Jesus in jeans and a T-shirt.

Love to you all

You're welcome!

God Bless you with His Divine Grace!

Endless Love to You,

Leila

[Leila]

Dear John,

I'd like to tell you that "Relationships and Spirituality" is another great thread, very much like "consciousness projection as childcare", where Julia, Darrell, Laura and many other wonderful people expressed their beliefs and experiences.

They were recommended to me by Julia, many months ago, and I read them entirely, learning alot from the wisdom of our friends, and about their lives.

By the way, the topics we discuss these days, would fit much better in that thread, than in "child's thread".

This is a very sacred topic to me, containing most amazing dialogues we've ever read, like you said, and it should be honored for that and kept the subject.

The good thing about posting here, otherwise, is that forum members have it in attention permanently and read it entirely - as we keep highlighting its value.

I invite the wonderful and beloved Mods to express their opinion about this, and if appropriate, to "kick us" out of here, and place us where we "deserve" to be...

Much Love to the Mods, and Dearest Talker - I miss you!!! 

Leila

[Kadensnga]

Agreed.

Much love to the mods indeed. Please freely do what is appropriate.

Namaste to all.

John

[Talker]

Dear John,

I'd like to tell you that "Relationships and Spirituality" is another great thread, very much like "consciousness projection as childcare", where Julia, Darrell, Laura and many other wonderful people expressed their beliefs and experiences.

They were recommended to me by Julia, many months ago, and I read them entirely, learning alot from the wisdom of our friends, and about their lives.

By the way, the topics we discuss these days, would fit much better in that thread, than in "child's thread".

This is a very sacred topic to me, containing most amazing dialogues we've ever read, like you said, and it should be honored for that and kept the subject.

The good thing about posting here, otherwise, is that forum members have it in attention permanently and read it entirely - as we keep highlighting its value.

I invite the wonderful and beloved Mods to express their opinion about this, and if appropriate, to "kick us" out of here, and place us where we "deserve" to be...

Much Love to the Mods, and Dearest Talker - I miss you!!! 

Leila

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Kadensnga

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Agreed.

Much love to the mods indeed. Please freely do what is appropriate.

Namaste to all.

Dear Ones,
Silence can be love in action, as in a beautiful sunrise,
as in the smile of joy sent outward for all to share.
What is appropriate when one hears the beautiful sounds of the singing birds!
Yet, when need be, the lion roars.
Be Well

[Kadensnga]

Thank you wise teacher, Talker,

The same God who loves the birds that sing, and the sun that rises, also loves the lion that roars.

That is the God shines through in your post.

Great Love to you, and thank you for your kind grace. Namaste.


John

[juliainkc]

Hello Everyone,

Leila, as always such Heartfelt expressions which vibe through and yes, I do tease in loving play of course! So, thank you for being such a wonderful sport.

John, Leila, the getting off topic . . . allow it to be what it is, as we do not know what is being released in another by reading another's heartfelt expression. Seems to be the way IT goes, no one knows where the wind is going nor where it comes from.

I am InJoying your conversations here. Truly beautiful heart expressions. And feel free to jump into the Relationships thread!!

Radiating Love's Light your way and All's way today ~

In Divine Spirit,

Julia

[zensunni7]

I don't think one can get off topic here.

In this forum we take a thought stream and let it go into the vastness of the Universe, so uncharted waters cannot find us off course at all, wherever we land is new and exciting.
We have entered here the new dimension talked of so much these days in physics and spiritual circles. For some here, we lived the modern days of the Christians catacomb days - meeting i secret to avoid being sentenced to asylums and medication for our ' differences ' of thoughts and lifestyles. Hiding our libraries of books from the dark side, and meditating behind closed doors amongst closed minds.

Here we think the forbidden thoughts and talk of forbidden ideas/ideals and test them for validity and application before announcing their worth to us and others. Many such as Talker - Julia - Laura and those that carry the load of conversation and responses here are the blazers of trails in a forest of ignorance and prejudices, and to survive the trip - we must know our navigation tools will see us walking in the moment and eternity - we must learn to truly breathe where there is no oxygen, self evolving energy gills at it were - Waves inspirational breatharian idea. Perhaps we will not see them in our lifetime, bit I find solace knowing it is being worked on within my DNA for future generations and their own. My children have been given gifts via my work yet to be realized.

We live strongly within the confines of dichotomies and the freedom of dynamic thoughts. " Be in the moment " evolves to precise vision that the moment is so fleeting it defies measurement, and forces acceptance that it is eternal and one must learn to find comfort in the vastness as we do in our homes, for this is the home of those that have ventured out beyond the walls of belief. To know God one must surrender belief in God. Einstein realized time did not exist when he stood truly in the ' moment ' concluding - shit - its not here. Then saw the face of God in eternal vastness.

It was the Father of me that began this dialogue and still writes here. Like many of the Elders of now, and the pioneers of yesterday in our lives to find another way to live life, from the the simple observation - this isn't working - and seeking out another way. ' Where are we going Dad? " I don't know - but its going to be a ride and a half getting there. The same open ended navigation applies in this forum. this is where we ask the real questions.
Is this a hoax?
Does this really work?
Are we insane?
What language does Julia actually write in?
Is Talker really over 100?
Is Zensunni my real name?

This road less traveled has been anything but the miraculous float down stream the Gurus talked of. The river of least resistance had many rocks in it, smashing the ship long ago, becuase its timbers were made of beliefs I thought to be unbreakable. It was a magnificent ship when I left port - now it is but - me. But carries her original name I AM. The path takes you back to you - for their are no absolute truths that can stand the test of time, they will all break apart on yo - revealing you are the only absolute truth of God. You will stand naked before the world and all in it, it is all you ever needed to find - you. The books the workshops - discussions here, they are all play toys of the infinite mind.

My children and grand children are coming for dinner today - my peaceful home will fill with chaos. We will do what Humans do - eat drink and be merry. Laugh, bitch, wander off to find a moment of peace, look off into the clouds to wonder. I and Dad, the Father of this gathering, and yet somehow been displaced in my reign as lawgiver and king of the clan, my grey hair signifying my time has ended as their caretaker, yet in my sly smile I know I have just shifted my power base of this family from the thundering voice of my earlier fatherhood to the silent power of my own self evolution.
Knowing that I am guiding them as i always have from Human to Human Being. For all are born Human, evolving to Human Being requires a choice, and if they did not see that choice being made in me, they do not know they will have to choose it themselves someday.
I blow from their lives the clouds of the world that say they are not good enough, that life is a battle to won on a competitive playing field, and words are not enough to do this with. I must know without doubt the path I took with myself and them led to the door of Being fully Human.

[Talker]

The hammer struck the nail head dead center

And so it came to pass

And thusly so, it was written, into the book of records

[juliainkc]

In Loving Witness to this Divinely Inspired expression.

Amen, So BE IT, and So IT IS.

In LOVEs Harmony shared in Joy, Peace and LOVEs Light in ONE Truth,

I sign my 'name' as,

Julia

[zensunni7]

This forum, it is a room in the great cave - the one of many generations of spiritual schooling, monks across time, messiahs bred, and God emerging onto creation.

This thread formed the story of leaving the cave, taking the schools of sciences, mystery, and religion before it became religion, into life.
Ancient words reverberate in the Great Cave of the illusion we call life, be ti illusion or not, it is the one we rise to at the next dawn, and it is filled with many creations of many peoples and many generations leaving theirs behind to tend and nurture, or clean away in its decay.

It is the illusion our children played and grew in, the one our friends and loved ones touch see and hear us within. So from the Great Cave we must leave, and fill the darkness of fear it is illusion, and that it is not.

Our illusion we call reality, and our reality we are calling illusion - and life is lived in the silent point between these in and out breaths. Fourth dimensional finite's of the infinite.

Just thinking in '' Julia "

[juliainkc]

Beloved Darrell,

Our illusion we call reality, and our reality we are calling illusion - and life is lived in the silent point between these in and out breaths. Fourth dimensional finite's of the infinite.

Just thinking in '' Julia "

Yes, only in the inbetween space can we truly hear the whispers of the Divine Voice's messages.

Namaste` WithIN Love,

Julia