Christianity – What type of a doctrine is it?

[melody]

Christianity is really not a complicated doctrine. It is based on 3 main premises:

1.   Love God and his Son Jesus
2.   Give God the well deserved honour and glory
3.   Be obedient = keep God’s commandments

As simple as this appears, people have struggle with these 3 points. Why?

1.   Is not it logical to love the entity which created you and gave you life, the entity that created all that is, all the planets, animals and vegetation as we know it? If you love your parents who gave you physical life, so why not love God as well? And since Jesus is a materialization of God on this planet, loving him is identical to loving God.

2.   As a creator of everything there is and running it so beautifully, he indeed deserves our honor and glory (which some call worship but that is simply semantics). God deserves such ‘worshipping’ much more than honor and glory we bestow freely, for instance, on Nobel Price winners. it. Yet we question this when it comes to God.

Try to imagine if you had to perform a task of creating the entire Universe and all there is and running it according to a plan. Absolutely none of us has such abilities. Yet we demote God and put ourselves in his place as equal creators. We are not gods, and it should not be difficult to acknowledge that there is a higher power than us, and honor that power.

3.   The Ten Commandments are very reasonable and a very simple guidance of how to be honorable and conduct just and honorable interactions in the human society. To obey God – a concept that many people have a problem with – simply means to keep his commandments, or as some call it, to keep God’s Law.

God gave us Bible and Ten commandments as his guidance of how we should conduct ourselves. It is his wish that we conduct ourselves according to the Ten Commandments. Therefore, he does not desire to experience any horrors and wrong doing through us. If he needed such experiences, he would not had supplied us with the Ten Commandments, and he would not had thrown us from the Garden of Eden where we would have had an idyllic life. Neither would he had demoted Devil for choosing evil.

Sin is simply any transgression from God’s instructions, from His Law, from his Ten Commandments. We tend to reject this law. But it simply denotes anything one does opposing Ten Commandments.

Yes, God is a Deity = a holy, divine being. He might not sit on the clouds, as some people might have imagined simply because absolutely everybody struggles with the concepts of how to imagine God and where exactly does He dwell, but that does not diminish God’s stature as the most supreme being with the most authority.

We all have our individuated ways how we express honor, and none of those ways should be rejected or looked down upon.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Christianity is really not a complicated doctrine. It is based on 3 main premises:

1.   Love God and his Son Jesus
2.   Give God the well deserved honour and glory
3.   Be obedient = keep God’s commandments

As simple as this appears, people have struggle with these 3 points. Why?

1.   Is not it logical to love the entity which created you and gave you life, the entity that created all that is, all the planets, animals and vegetation as we know it? If you love your parents who gave you physical life, so why not love God as well? And since Jesus is a materialization of God on this planet, loving him is identical to loving God.

2.   As a creator of everything there is and running it so beautifully, he indeed deserves our honor and glory (which some call worship but that is simply semantics). God deserves such ‘worshipping’ much more than honor and glory we bestow freely, for instance, on Nobel Price winners. it. Yet we question this when it comes to God.

Try to imagine if you had to perform a task of creating the entire Universe and all there is and running it according to a plan. Absolutely none of us has such abilities. Yet we demote God and put ourselves in his place as equal creators. We are not gods, and it should not be difficult to acknowledge that there is a higher power than us, and honor that power.

3.   The Ten Commandments are very reasonable and a very simple guidance of how to be honorable and conduct just and honorable interactions in the human society. To obey God – a concept that many people have a problem with – simply means to keep his commandments, or as some call it, to keep God’s Law.

God gave us Bible and Ten commandments as his guidance of how we should conduct ourselves. It is his wish that we conduct ourselves according to the Ten Commandments. Therefore, he does not desire to experience any horrors and wrong doing through us. If he needed such experiences, he would not had supplied us with the Ten Commandments, and he would not had thrown us from the Garden of Eden where we would have had an idyllic life. Neither would he had demoted Devil for choosing evil.

Sin is simply any transgression from God’s instructions, from His Law, from his Ten Commandments. We tend to reject this law. But it simply denotes anything one does opposing Ten Commandments.

Yes, God is a Deity = a holy, divine being. He might not sit on the clouds, as some people might have imagined simply because absolutely everybody struggles with the concepts of how to imagine God and where exactly does He dwell, but that does not diminish God’s stature as the most supreme being with the most authority.

We all have our individuated ways how we express honor, and none of those ways should be rejected or looked down upon.

I believe we have discussed many of these issues previously in the Telekinesis thread

However, I can see that within you are possibly struggling to reconcile your previously held beliefs about God, probably from childhood, against what you are now learning about the true nature of reality. My advice, offered with great respect is to cease troubling yourself in this way.

I communicate from time to time with a Roman Catholic Monk who is clearly in the middle of a serious identity crisis after reading my newsletters and presumably other sources of information.

I advised him that instead of attempting to reconcile the Universe with his religion, the only way forward from here is to see how his religious beliefs might be reconciled with the Universe and to embrace them.

However, notwithstanding my friendly advice, I can answer all of your questions with one simple statement:

Every single one of us Is God.  We are all channels of expression and experience of the One Source, The Prime Creator, the True God.

In this case it becomes illogical to look upon God as an external or separate Being or Entity that we should defer to in any way. We all have access to the infinite power of God to create our own reality without interference from others using the primary Universal Principle - Mind.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
 

[Talker]

However, notwithstanding my friendly advice, I can answer all of your questions with one simple statement:

Every single one of us Is God.  We are all channels of expression and experience of the One Source, The Prime Creator, the True God.

In this case it becomes illogical to look upon God as an external or separate Being or Entity that we should defer to in any way. We all have access to the infinite power of God to create our own reality without interference from others using the primary Universal Principle - Mind.
Kind regards,
Adrian.

To All A Harmonious Day,

Amen. Wasn't easy to overcome my original beliefs, as those beliefs were deeply embedded, during my childhood. Questions, observation, challenge, trial and error application of new formed beliefs, and here I am, in harmony with the new. Validation is of course, still in motion, and frequently question which will come first, unquestioned belief, validation, or passing on. In moments of humorous exchanges with the family, I tell them, "I see myself walking toward a throne, seated there, is a magnificent figure, drumming his fingers impatiently, on the arm of the throne, saying, " I've been waiting to talk to you". But will happen only if I'm wrong in my current beliefs I tell them  (the family) rapidly. A moment to look forward too.

[Adrian]

Hello,

For anyone who follows the creed, doctrines and dogma of a dogmatic religion, including those turning up at my door hoping to "convert" me, I always ask one very simple, unambiguous question which is this:

"On what basis did you chose to follow your chosen religion".

The answer is almost always the same - because their parents follow that religion, and they are simply respecting their parents.

In fact I have encountered very few people, even of those who write to me, that have pro-actively subscribed to a religion out of choice on the basis that they believe that belief system offers them the best opportunity to become a better and more evolved person.

You will typically find that religious traditions go back in families for hundreds of years.

To be honest, religion is simply an extension of how society works with most taking the path of least resistance and simply conforming to the wishes of their parents, to the expectations of family friends and society, and the desire to "conform. This is one major reaon why little or no progress is made.

The only way to progress is to use your own Divine Freewill and infinite powers entrusted to us by Divine Providence to actively seek the truth, to determine what path to take in order to maximise experience in this incarnation, and to courageously take it in the contant quest for perfection.

For those reading this who do subscribe to a religion, ask yourself this qestion and please post your answer honestly in this topic. You will find that having the courage to answer this question will free an aspect of you within.

On what basis have you chosen, accepted and practice your current religion?

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

... I can see that within you are possibly struggling to reconcile your previously held beliefs about God, probably from childhood, against what you are now learning about the true nature of reality. My advice, offered with great respect is to cease troubling yourself in this way.

Hello Adrian,

Sorry, but you’ve got it quite wrong about me. I was raised an atheist, and went through many branches of New Age and contemporary interpretations of reality, the latest being OUR. Yet, I am gravitating more and more towards the Bible, to the exact word inside it and how the various passages resonate with each other, not to an organized church. Jesus was the highest master that ever walked this Earth. No other master or prophet was ever able to raise from dead somebody dead for 3 days and smelling from decomposition.

Regardless of you practicing your spiritual type of path for quite a while now, this including acquiring psychic abilities, your assessment of me is diametrically opposite to the reality, and is basically an “educated guess”. That speaks volumes to me…

[Talker]

On what basis have you chosen, accepted and practice your current religion?

Kind regards,

Adrian.

The question is understood and in that context, I asked myself, " if what I believe at this point were a religion, how would I reply to Adrian's question!"
Superficially it appears easy enough to respond too. Seems as though there was an unending stream of thoughts, far to many for any type of answer. Many were thoughts of why I no longer followed what I was taught as a child. That was not what I was looking for.
How best to proceed with this without writing a book on it? 

Chosen,- 
By trial and error elimination of dogmatic concepts that strained credibility.

Accepted -
Feeling tones within, about the new awareness concepts were harmonious.

Practice -
Live in awareness of causing no deliberate harm to another, and being responsible for all my actions.

Was going to, and even tried to add more to my statements above, just didn't feel right. Doing what was just done, was surprising in why the reluctance to add the many other thoughts held, while doing this write.
Will do some introspection on this after posting.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

I was certainly not judging you, and if I came across that way I unreservedly apologise here and now.

My response to your message was based purely on your series of messages and questions relating to the Bible, and in particular the nature and implications of those questions which I determined to imply an approach from the direction of the Bible - and there is nothing at all wrong with that. I was simply responding to your post accordingly.

That said I would refer you to your own post which suggests a very typical theological bias, based on a deity God, particularly with your frequent references to "He" and "Him" etc - which again is an observation.

The inner meaning of the Bible is extremely powerful, and was intended as the basis to prepare humanity for the end of the coming age - but of course it all went somewhat off-course when the Romans decided to make Jesus into a religion and instrument of power and control to replace the declining Roman army and Empire.

In my newsletters I am gradually discussing the inner meanings of the Bible and will continue to do so - as you will appreciate however it is not exactly a five minute task

Again I apologise if I upset you, but if you think I am a person to agree with you or anyone else just because it is the easy thing to do, and so as not to upset anyone, you are on the wrong forum If everyone said and did what they truly feel is right, humanity would not be in the state it is today with everyone striving to conform to everyone else.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

You did not upset me. Your post simply made me realize that no one, even with believes or practices at your level, is all knowing. No one compares to what Jesus did, and therefore he is far above capabilities of any human being. That makes him, in my opinion, more of a Deity (however much you might dislike this word), and gives the validity to the biblical teachings at a level I do not find anywhere else.

I don’t care about church’s religious teachings (like Catholicism) since they have their own problems, and are on their own ego trip. But I also don’t yield to someone’s believe of being God, of everybody being Gods, without even simple sensitivities about others.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Hello Adrian,

You did not upset me. Your post simply made me realize that no one, even with believes or practices at your level, is all knowing. No one compares to what Jesus did, and therefore he is far above capabilities of any human being. That makes him, in my opinion, more of a Deity (however much you might dislike this word), and gives the validity to the biblical teachings at a level I do not find anywhere else.

I don’t care about church’s religious teachings (like Catholicism) since they have their own problems, and are on their own ego trip. But I also don’t yield to someone’s believe of being God, of everybody being Gods, without even simple sensitivities about others.

Only God is all knowing, and those Beings who have completed their own path and reunited with God.

Jesus was every bit a human being as you or I or anyone else, but one who clearly came here for a very specific mission.

But even Jesus said:

"And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive, For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them". But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them. Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower." --Matthew 13:10-18

This simply means that only those capable of understanding his words would, and his words would fall on deaf ears for everyone else as he says here:

"Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand."

Jesus came to Earth to teach the teachers who would understand, and they further teachers and so on, until finally, by the end of the age, humanity would be ready for the next stage of its evolution.

As it was however, his words were seized by Emporer Constantine and made into the basis of the "new religion" based upon theology - in other words they had no idea what the words of Jesus really meant, and neither were they intended to know.

No Being, however great they are perceived to be should ever be elevated to deity status - although of course the Romans and Greeks had hundreds of them   Jesus words do not require validity, they require understanding.

As for you, I and everyone else being God - Jesus makes this same point time and time again.

Look at the Lords Prayer for example. The first two words are "Our Father" - not "my Father", or "His Father", or "Jesus Father", but Our Father, the Father of everyone and of the entire Universe.

And for example:

"At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you". -- John 14:20

How else can this be interpreted but the simple truth that we are all One, and "in our Father"?

If we are to read the Bible, whether it by the popular meaning or the inner meaning, we cannot do so selectively.

I apologise if I appear to be insensitive, it is not my intention, but at the same time "time" is to short to beat about the bush, and at least it encourages people to think more deeply about things.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

I accept your apology and I totally agree that one should not peruse Bible selectively. I look at what precedes and follows the passages quoted, and often see quite a different story. So, for instance, here are verses that come just before and after John 14:20 you mention above

John 14:19  Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 14:20  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
John 14:21  He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

In these verses Jesus addresses himself to his disciples and not to the populace at large.

John 14:19 Here Jesus tells his disciples that in a little while he will no longer be in the physical world, but the disciples will see him. Jesus will continue to live, though no longer in the physical world. And the disciples will live through him = communing with him.

John 14:20 “At that day” – when he departs from Earth because that what Jesus was talking about in the previous verse -  the disciples will still be able to commune with him. They will know that Jesus is in his Father, is in God, is God. And since they will be still in communion with Jesus, they will be in Jesus and Jesus will be in them, meaning they will continue his mission on Earth.

John 14:21 Though in this passage Jesus still addresses himself to his disciples and implies them, he makes his statement more general and proclaims that whosoever keeps Jesus’ commandments (and let’s not forget, that they were God’s commandments to begin with, but Jesus claims they are his commandments; he therefore is stating he is God), and whosoever loves Jesus, will be loved by God, and by Jesus, who will manifest himself to them. (Manifest = be with them, commune with them.)

I see no grounds that John 14:20 is about us being Gods. What the verses state: we have to keep the ten commandments and love God to be in Jesus and him to be in us = to commune with Jesus, with God.

We might eventually be Gods if we keep God’s commandments and love him. But to claim that right now we are already Gods is a bit premature. We are not there yet, and are in fact quite far away from it.

Perhaps some humility on this subject of being already Gods might be of benefit… 

As for the Lord’s prayer, yes He is “Our Father” because he is the creator of all of us and of everything there is, yet this does not mean we are God. We also can create. We can create a car or a house, for instance. Does it mean those objects are us, even if we are both energy? I would not go so far… Even when parents ‘create’ children, those children are not the parents but are quite distinct from them, with their own emotions, thoughts, aspirations and believes.

Once before, according to the Bible, people thought they were gods, were one, and all united in one project – to build the tower of Babylon. And what did God do? Was he pleased with this oneness of people considering themselves Gods? Quite the opposite. He scattered everybody far apart and gave them different languages so they would be distinct, and would not imagine themselves being Gods - a magnificent lesson in curbing ego and pride.

We are here to learn to curb our ego and pride, and only then could we possibly advance anywhere higher up.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Yes you make excellent points as ever.

What you see in my responses is my extreme passion for sharing what I know, beyond any doubt to be the truth. But at the same time truth is a very personal thing, and manifests in different ways to different people.

In my book I have endeavoured to write in such a way that is both unambiguous and understandable to as many people as possible. I do however, in the latest edition of my book, at the conclusion, make the point that although this is the absolute truth as I know it to be, everyone must search within to see how it resonates, and if anything I say does not vibrate as true then they are to disgard it and keep only that which they resonate with.

On the subject of us all being God, I cannot detract from this truth, because it is so utterly and completely fundamantal to our understanding of the true nature of reality, our relationship with God, and our ultimate destiny.

Plain and simple, anyone who believes themselves to be separate from God in any way, will place themselves in a compromised situation.

It is not only Jesus who taught this, all of the great cultures of the world teach exactly the same truth.

The Hindu teachings of the Vedas and the Upanishads teach this extensively, the latter stating:

"You are at one with the Universe. He who says he is different from others, even by a hairs breadth, immediately becomes miserable. Happiness belongs to him who knows this oneness, who knows he is one with the Universe”.

I will not answer your other questions because my responses to your views will probably not be what you want to hear, and I do not wish to compound the effect of my forthrightness any further

At the final analysis it is for everyone to find God within for themselves.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
 

[melody]

Plain and simple, anyone who believes themselves to be separate from God in any way, will place themselves in a compromised situation.

Hello Adrian,

If one believes in God, loves God, and keeps his commandments - does exactly as the Bible teachers - one is not separate from God, one is always with God, and God is with him, and in him as a guiding light.

To decribe the meaning of not being separate and yet not blending into one, a good analogy might be two lovers who are not separated, they are together, yet they are very much individuated.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Plain and simple, anyone who believes themselves to be separate from God in any way, will place themselves in a compromised situation.

Hello Adrian,

If one believes in God, loves God, and keeps his commandments - does exactly as the Bible teachers - one is not separate from God, one is always with God, and God is with him, and in him as a guiding light.

To decribe the meaning of not being separate and yet not blending into one, a good analogy might be two lovers who are not separated, they are together, yet they are very much individuated.

I really cannot usefully add anymore to what I have already said in this topic.

But please be assured that I do respect and value your views and contributions to these discussions.

Kind regards,

Adrian.