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Author Topic: CHOOSING THE MOMENT WHEN WE WILL LEAVE THIS LIFE IN THE END TIMES?  (Read 715 times)
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« on: March 05, 2009, 23:26:07 »


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QUESTION ABOUT THE FREE WILL OF CHOOSING THE MOMENT WHEN WE WILL LEAVE THIS LIFE IN THE END TIMES?

I have a question I would like to have clarified. It is about the possibility of free choice concerning our own moment of death in the coming transition times.

I am close to 60 years old and I have quite a few serious health problems that make it impossible for me to survive long in the difficult conditions that are predicted.

I am a very spiritual person and I believe the best way for me to participate fully in the ascension is to meditate intensively in view of achieving the best level of spiritual enlightement possible for me, and then leave this life at the summit of my spiritual achievement in a conscious way, in mastery of myself and in the best conditions for my future spiritual evolution.

I have learned from the Tibetan Bardo Thodol, that the moments and state of mind we have immediately at the moment of death and in the days following is very important. It is a very key moment in our personal soul evolution and resulting future. If we can experience this moment with mastery, harmony focus and confidence, this will bear fruits in the level we will attain in our spiritual evolution and will also have an incidence in our eventual reincarnation.

I plan to do this by inducing myself into the process of leaving this life when I fell I am ready for the passage. We have on Earth the chemical means to dye peacefully in our sleep. I feel it is a better scenario and dynamic than freezing to death in a super cold winter in Quebec without any electricity, I will not be able to meditate if I'm freezing to death in these hard conditions and my passage to the other side will be a lot more thraumatic and less inspired. I believe this is the best way I can contribute to this ascension process to my understanding and in my condition.


I would really appreciate if we could get a voice from the world of Light about this question of purposefully dying when one feels it is the right time. I know that many ancient Indian tribes had such a process and ritual for those that where at the end of the road. Earth will need strong hands to pursue. People like me will not be able to continue because of their physical limitations.

But we on Earth have been so manipulated by the false religions, all our values have been manipulated. I personally feel it is a mature and noble thing to depart on our own will and time and leave the place for those that are more able to carry on. Earth will need a huge lowering of it's population to survive. Let's face it, there is no way around that one. This is an imperative. This is a generous contribution that all those that are in a similar situation as mine can choose to do, if it is their self chosen will and understanding. I fell it is a natural thing to consider and reflect upon in these coming end times.

But we have been fed so much false beliefs, even for our best minds it is difficult to see the light on such issues. Could the light of the Great One shine his welcomed compassion and wisdom on this subject. I am sure many other humans of Earth will sincerely appreciate and learn from hearing a point of view that has not been subjected to the influence of the manipulation that we have known since centuries on Earth.

We have been fed the belief that if someone choose his own moment of death, this is a negative karmic choice and trace and we will pay a price for that. I believe we are now facing a future where this contentious issue should be thoroughly clarified from the point of view of the world of Light and those responsible concils in the Galactic Federation. We are all in it together, so please let's have some light on this important and pertinent issue.

Many will die in these coming times. I believe all of us would immensely gain by receiving some essential wisdom and training for this important moment of the process of life, the moment of transition toward our rebirth in the dimension of the Light and the Spirit.

May the Great Spirit sun shine in our hearts.
In brotherhood

Astraelia

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 10:53:04 »

Dear Astraelia,


I have read your moving post, my heart goes out to you because I imagine the state you must have been to voice such thoughts; and I will respectfully give my own take on the subject and I warn you that is not something that you would like to hear.

For one I think yes we have the right to chose our moment of passing from this physical plane, however how and through what methods is another matter.

If let's say you have reached a level of mastery where you just close you eyes and 'whoosh' you left your body either by deciding to change it into a higher frequency energy form or just leave it behind as the ancient shamans did then I would say all my respect to you.
I have read a lot about ancient medicine men and in everything that I read they would just take their farewell from the loved ones explaining that their lives in this plane has come to an end, then they just 'willed' themselves pass away.
I do not recall anything about using toxic extracts to aid them in the passage - even though they liberally used plants "allyes" to aid them in reaching higher level of consciousness and communicate with spirit world.

So, if you talk about deliberate euthanasia I have to tell you that in my honest opinion will not take you where you wish to go. And from what I know is illegal thus you would not be able to o it unless you enlist the cooperation of another (such as Dr. Death) and this in itself is wrong because through this you attract another in your misdemeanour.

Aside practical reasons I think at Spirit level is detrimental. We have come here to experience everything that we need to experience, by your refusal to participate in your last moments on earth you deprive your Spirit and Higher Self by closing the circle of your life incarnation.

Again from what I read (avalanche victims etc) dying in cold is like sleeping peacefully in a sweet dream; if dying in cold is a reality which in itself subscribes to doom prophecies in which I am sorry but I simply do not believe. 

About survival and thriving in extreme colds I think we have a lot to learn from our Inuit brothers. I also read that in old times when elderly 'felt' is time to pass away they would just leave their igloos and go become one with the frozen North - as in being the decent way to go.


Taking own life, or other life, as opposed to letting nature take its course goes againt the natural laws.


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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 14:42:42 »

Hello Astraelia and Mina-Laura,

Well worded and stated post Laura, thank you.
Astraelia, your words posted, are ever so important.

"I have learned from the Tibetan Bardo Thodol, that the moments and state of mind we have immediately at the moment of death and in the days following is very important".

Understanding the death process is difficult for many. Even with awareness of it, it still gives me difficulty, when along side of a dying person. More so when family member is involved due to our 'closeness' to each other. A bitter sweet learning curve in the doing. Am avoiding the details involved, while holding the hands of the person passing over. Any details mentioned would be a small book in size.
Please do reconsider looking at your situation from another perspective. Make believe, role playing, fantasy or whatever it takes, what ever others may call it, write your own thoughts on how you want it to take place.
Your post reflects valid concerns, is well stated, and honest from the heart.You desire things to change, so either change the beliefs, or make corrections and allow the changes to become your new belief. Yes, as I frequently mention, 'easier to say then do' but you can only achieve that new awareness by actually starting to do it. The rest will follow according to you beliefs.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 12:21:32 »

I have learned from the Tibetan Bardo Thodol,

Dearest friend.  Unfortunately we are not very good at living and we are completely lost when it comes to dying.  I appreciate your wise post as your time nears more so than my own.  When it comes to the transition I think that Tibetan Buddhism is really the only place that anyone can find any answers.  The Book of the Dead is very insightful and informative.

On a sort of side note, the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Tibetan Book of the Dead along with their practices are almost identical.  It is odd that these two distant lands would share the same, unique views on death.  Perhaps there are answers here?
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 16:53:05 »

Dear friends - Mina, Baron, Talker

I thank you sincerely for taking the time and consideration to contribute of your own wisdom and understanding to this subject that most dare not voice. I feel that not closing the circle of one's life before nature close it is a valid point. Until then I will keep on striving to be one with the Light, listening to it's ever greater teachings. One day soon we will all be celebrating our grand reunion together and with our beloved brothers and sisters from afar. I'm  looking forward to it.

Be blessed

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