Awakening Kundalini for adrian

[soika]

i read alot of info about Awakening Kundalini some say it is safe some  dangerous  and i want to know from adrian experience
how it is work and is there really any danger in doing so??

thanks

[Talker]

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Posted on: Yesterday at 08:09:50Posted by: soika 
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i read alot of info about Awakening Kundalini some say it is safe some  dangerous  and i want to know from adrian experience
how it is work and is there really any danger in doing so??

thanks
 
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Hi,
Until Adrian can reply, may I offer this: There may be, simple answers to your question, but am not aware of them. First, let me say that asking " is it safe ", is best answered, by focusing on the second part of the question, " Is it dangerous ?". From my point of view, an answer would have to be " yes, it's dangerous, and no, it's not dangerous ", giving us a paradox. Yes, one can find a wealth of information on and about Kundalini. Various teachings and teachers, give explanations that range from simple, profound, or deep into confusing. I believe there are / were some individuals, put in asylums, when they experienced the " dangerous aspect of Kundalini. Others have experienced exaltation, with the safe aspect of Kundalini. I touch on the matter, somewhat,in a post on my blog:
The Psychics Blog - Post "# 9 How Do I Know If I'm Psychic!". One does need to evaluate their spiritual, emotional and physical conditions " gently ", while using chakra "based systems, before " trying " for the ultimate enlightenment experience. Any problems in those three areas mentioned, then, yes, it could prove to be a dangerous process. If the spiritual, emotional and physical,aspects, are not to messed-up, there should be no problem. An example I posted in " Razors Edge, # 63 Why Did I Do That ", is part of what I call " messed-up", and points toward, what needs to be corrected.So, it's not the process used, being the danger, it is ones spiritual, emotional and physical condition, at the time, used, that poses the possible danger.
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[Kevin]

Are we not ultimately responsible for our own behavior - or reaction- to any teaching, philosophy. or   external influence.

Kevin

[Werp Weg Alles]

Hello Kevin,

And believe me when I say I can understand your confusion.
While yes, karma, LOA, and the truth that universe is all vibration, and like attracts like and all such should show that we are ultimately responsible for our own behavior.  But we are responsible in the fact that if we knowingly endanger ourselves then we get to experience a severe mental reaction to such a foolish action.  Every action has a reaction still holds true, even with universal principals. 

Kundalini is  HIGHLY powerful energy!!!! I have been involved in Kundalini Reiki(which is no way a kundalini awakening) for a handful of years  now, meditate on a very frequent basis, and feel generally my energy body is in a pretty good state.  However I would still NOT attempt an awakening within myself of the energy. 

Robert Bruce who wrote Astral Dynamics and M.A.P. and came up with the N.E.W. energy manipulation course almost died at a young age during his awakening.  However, if you feel you're ready for such a dramatic increase of energy, awareness, and ability to manipulate energy and manifest things easier then you are.  However, bear in mind that while all those are wondrous abilities, great things come with great responsibility! 

To begin with the process first question your entire life.  Make sure that you can experience all that may come from such a raw vital force entering your energy matrix.  If you decide to do it, it WILL undoubtedly be a LIFE CHANGING experience.  It may be for the better.  But if you decide to do it, it could have permanent repercussions that you will have no choice but to accept if they should happen.  After that I'd suggest a fast to clear the body of toxins and such, and then choose the process of awakening that feels right for you.  Every person on the planet is different(even though we are all one)  so the specific awakening method is DIFFERENT for every person, whatever you feel is right in your gut is more then likely truly the right way for you!(your higher self(God-self)(positive being) will give you the sense of "knowing" when it knows its the right process for you).

I wish you the best of luck.  Please let us know what you decided and how it works out.

Werp

[ProjectYourSoul]

i read alot of info about Awakening Kundalini some say it is safe some  dangerous  and i want to know from adrian experience
how it is work and is there really any danger in doing so??

thanks

Can't say if its dangerous, but I can share my experience. There was a long period of time where I questioned things in my life. The gifts that I felt I could not share because I felt I might be ridiculed. The childhood abuse which in a way was a blessing as it pushed me forward, to search for more answers. I think for me the energy has been awakened for some time now. There were times when I couldnt leave the house the energy was that strong. The most intense moment of all came while taking a walk in the woods several years ago. It started happening again but this time it was very different. Within a matter of seconds the energy became so intense it nearly took my breath away. A little scary but somehow it felt so familiar, it was very blissful indeed. Strange thing is when I got home I called a friend and asked her this, you mean it gets better than this?

Thomas

[Werp Weg Alles]

Hello,

When your Kundalini is "awakened" you will feel a RUSH of energy and what some say is a etheric "snake" going up your spine, this clears out and enlarges all of your energy pathways and chakras as well as connects your crown and brow chakras thus allowing your latent psychic abilities to emerge. 

Some say that when they have their awakening they have a spontaneous O.B.E. and get "examined" by several ascended masters or beings. 

Either way, when true Kundalini is awakened,  you WILL know about it.  Several people have said the contents of the bowels liquefy because of the garbage we feed ourselves(why a fast is preferable to an awakening attempt).

All the best of luck,

Werp

[Adrian]

Hello Soika,

Welcome to the forums.

i read alot of info about Awakening Kundalini some say it is safe some  dangerous  and i want to know from adrian experience
how it is work and is there really any danger in doing so??

thanks

Awakening the Kundalini is quite honestly mystical hype.

It can be done, but as you suggest it is more often than not dangerous and can even be fatal.

Unfortunately there is alot of nonsense spoken about how much more advanced, even "enlightened" people are if they can perform these acts, but I can tell you that more often than not the opposite is true and their are zero benefits towards Spiritual evolution.

Some of the main requirements for Spiritual evolution include but are not limited to:

1. Service to others before service to self
2. Subjugation of the Ego
3. Unconditional Love for All

People who talk about "raising Kundalini" rarely have any of these attributes.

Mystical abilities are fine however if we can already place them in the right context, and do not feel superior to others about it.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Spectre]

Kundalini raising or kundalini awakening; are they the same or different. With me they would be two different things. The awakening could be the kundalini energies that a somewhat guru would anoint their tantras as rewards. Admitably it is a dubious deed but still it is done whereas the kundalini rising is the stored energy that shoots up the spine and puts one in an OBE.

From personal experience Adrian is right you don’t have to be an enlightened person to use kundalini and Shaktipat. Has anyone ever been to an evangelic revival and witnessed the laying on of hands where people drop, shake on the floor, and even speak in tongs? There is also a more subtle ways of doing awakenings, one of touching fingertips and let the energy flow as if it were the cooling breeze on a warm summers night. That will leave a person with the warm fuzzies for days.

Adrian I have a question of importance, the latter that I mentioned was a method I have used way in the past to arouse the kundalini within a person. On another place there was this person that this happened to in a lucid dream, have you ever known of this happening? Would you think this to be spontaneous or spirit evoked? In this dream they had another person that was touching their fingertips and they said it was like electricity (their best explanation of the energy) and that they felt the fuzzies for days after awakening.

[Adrian]

Hello Spectre,

Kundalini raising or kundalini awakening; are they the same or different. With me they would be two different things. The awakening could be the kundalini energies that a somewhat guru would anoint their tantras as rewards. Admitably it is a dubious deed but still it is done whereas the kundalini rising is the stored energy that shoots up the spine and puts one in an OBE.

From personal experience Adrian is right you don’t have to be an enlightened person to use kundalini and Shaktipat. Has anyone ever been to an evangelic revival and witnessed the laying on of hands where people drop, shake on the floor, and even speak in tongs? There is also a more subtle ways of doing awakenings, one of touching fingertips and let the energy flow as if it were the cooling breeze on a warm summers night. That will leave a person with the warm fuzzies for days.

Adrian I have a question of importance, the latter that I mentioned was a method I have used way in the past to arouse the kundalini within a person. On another place there was this person that this happened to in a lucid dream, have you ever known of this happening? Would you think this to be spontaneous or spirit evoked? In this dream they had another person that was touching their fingertips and they said it was like electricity (their best explanation of the energy) and that they felt the fuzzies for days after awakening.

Kundalini neither brings enlightement and neither does it take an enlightened person to accomplish this.

Kundalini raising is a mystical experience, like achieving Samhadi in meditation for example - all very profound - but an experience nevertheless.

The risk is that, as with people who can easily Astral Project, or are Clairvoyant etc, such people believe they have "special powers" or are more "Spiritually advanced" than others. This is rarely a valid observation, and the opposite is often the case because it leads to an uncontrolled Ego.

That said, raising Kundalini is a valid, but potentially dangerous experience, and very profound - but only if approached as an experience, like Astral Projection for example, with knowledge, and in the realisation that it contributes nothing towards our reason for being here - Spiritual Growth.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[archivist]

Hi from the land of ice and snow, Canada!  This is my first post here.  So many very interesting topics being discussed.  We could very easily spend all our time "living" in the forum but obviously not practical.  As to awakening Kundalini, the little that I know about it, the "awakening" happens when you are ready for it.  I know, terribly cliched.  There is a mountain of literature on it and the cautions they give is that it must be done very slowly and carefully, else you risk blowing out your body's spiritual "circuits".  Then it's very hard to start again.  I don't quite agree with Adrian (whom I really do love as a brother, wonderful person) about there being no benefits to the process.  In preparation for this awakening one has to clear or clean out each chakra in succession by various means and methods starting with the lowest, the root chakra, and ending with the highest, the crown chakra.  It's really just a matter of vibration or frequency.  The lowest chakra has the lowest frequency and the crown chakra, the highest.  It is after all called the thousand-petalled lotus.  Each succeeding chakra activated properly apparently confers different psychic or spiritual properties to the practitioner, until, when the crown chakra is properly activated you have union with the divine.  At that point you apparently have the CHOICE to leave or stay.  Extremely difficult. Fraught with dangers. Not to be undertaken lightly.  Some of the prerequisites, at the very least are the eight-fold Buddhist path and EXTREME spiritual maturity.  And it will probably take you AT LEAST more than one lifetime.  No matter what our path or the little side trips we take we ALL end up back at the SOURCE, the ONE, the CREATOR, the FIRST CAUSE, the ETERNAL, anyways, NO MATTER HOW MANY LIFETIMES WE STRUGGLE.  Even if it takes us a million lifetimes we ALL end up back "home" eventually with our CREATOR FATHER.  This sojourn on the material plane is our training ground and school so that we may ALL learn our "lessons" in the fullness of time.  Some of the lessons appear difficult but remember we ALL agreed to come down here to learn.  Even the death of a loved one, other tragedies.  They ALL happen for a reason in concert with GOD's divine will, even though at the time we may not know why and actually blame GOD for our troubles or misfortune.  EVERYTHING happens in accordance with GOD's will and is a part of his divine plan.  EVERTHING!   Coming down here was one of our most courageous and loving decisions because we KNEW beforehand what was in store for us.  And we did it out of unconditional love which is another one of our lessons that we need to learn here. In this, one of the darkest ages on this planet, its pretty difficult, but the opportunities to do so are everywhere.  One of the "easiest" ways to think of the human condition is that we are immensely powerful, eternal SPIRITUAL beings having a HUMAN experience.  I think this is closer to the truth than the other way around.  I'll try and come here more often.  In closing have a look at the "Urantia Book".  Much useful information.  Another good site is biblebelievers.au.  A little more "gritty" outlook on life but still a very dedicated and spiritually enlightened person.  Till next time.

Archi     

[Adrian]

Hello Archi,

Welcome to the forums and thank you for your most excellent post, much of which I agree with.

I would just like to comment on the parts of your message that require it from my perspective.

The "kundalini" experience is a mystical experience that it independent of Spiritual evolution, or rather does not depend on Spiritual evolution.

There are numerous people who have achieved raising the kundalini, and I know quite a few of them, but in and of itself this ability neither implies or brings Spiritual evolution, anymore than any other mystical experience. The danger is of course that people who achieve raising the kundalini often think they are better and more Spiritually advanced than others, which is almost never the case.

That said, people who are advanced Spiritually can and do experience kundalini without working to do so, and in these cases it might be considered to be an indication of Spiritual attainment but again not necessarily - it has happened spontaneously to numerous people for no apparent reason, although of course there must be one - nothing ever happens by chance.

Likewise psychic, clairvoyant and other abilities are almost never an indicator of Spiritual attainment, and often in fact the reverse is true.

But in and of itself it remains an interesting phenomena. There is only one ultimate indicator of Spiritual attainment and that is our the vibration and perfection of our inner bodies of Energy.

The completion of the end of our cycle of incarnations on Earth is only the beginning of the journey on the path back to Source. I liken it to graduating from first year in kindergarten to second year of kindergarten. There are a countless number of levels of Energy and vibration during which we encounter environments far beyond human comprehension, and even then no human words could even begin to describe it.  After all incarnations are complete, our Higher Self assumes the identity of the final Earth incarnation, notwithstanding the fact they are all concurrent, and moves on to greater things on the path to perfection, offering an even greater service in the grand scheme of things, the inner always helping the outer on the path back to our Divine Creator.

The only other comment I would like to make on your excellent post is the notion of "God's Will".  God does not "will" anything, and the phrase "it must be God's will" is completely erroneous.  God thought the Universe, the ultimate Thought Form into Being in accordance with a grand plan and reason certainly, but God never imposes God's will on anything or anyone for very good reason.  God is facilitating perfection through freewill and therefore no bias. if god was to impose will then that event or person would be biased accordingly, and perfection would be compromised.

The Universe is perfecting and expanding through countless individual Energy fields - Beings and entities with freewill to achieve perfection through experience. This is why we can have anything at all - God cannot and would not refuse anything an aspect of God's self deemed necessary for experience, because to do so would go against the Principle of perfection through freewill and experience of both the individuation's, the individual channels of expression and experience and the therefore ultimately of the Whole.

Kind regards,

Adrian.