Astral Projection Related

[Adrian]

Hello psyko_tripper

Thank you for your post and welcome to the forums.

I am not sure why you should be experiencing these issues at the time of separation. It might be due to imbalances in your Energy body which prevent a smooth separation and in turn the feeling of physical pain. Of course the pain might not be real but only seems to be real. You are correct in observing that it will not be due to negative entities.

It might well be related to smoking cannabis; any mind-altering substance will adversely affect OBE or Astral projection, and that includes alcohol or caffeine. Also eating a significant meal close to bedtime will have this effect.

I suggest you do not smoke cannabis until at least you can see if it makes a difference. When you reach the separation stage will yourself to float upwards and then issue the command "clarity now" and keep repeating it until you have perfect Astral vision.

Above all do not worry about it or think about this before the OBE otherwise you will attracr more of the same. You should expect total success.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[Juan Aragon Longo]

Hi:
Yesterday night i had an experience dificult to explain. I was asleep and suddenly i dream that i was opening the door of my house. Then something came in and like grab me and enter my body. It feels kind of weird because i can feel my body more different. It has more weight and my mind was different. For a moment i thought that i wasnt me anymore. The as suddenly the thing left my body and i felt a surge of energy all over my body from top of my head to my feet. It was very weird and it was the first time i experience this kind of sensation. I want to know if some of you have this experience before and what was it? I dont know if it was me coming into my body from an out of body or something trying to get in. The only thing is that i didnt feel fear, only curiosity.
Juan.

[maverick7h]

Like the book says, one popular method is to wake up a couple of hours earlier than usual, stay awake for a bit, then go back to bed. I thought I'd share a story that ellaborates on this.

Several years ago, when I was in middle school, school started at like 7AM. My dad would wake me up to take a shower and get ready etc, at 530. Natually, I wasn't normally going to bed until 1AM, so that's not a full night's sleep. Anyway, after taking my shower, my dad would take his. This was my opportunity to, instead of getting ready like I should, go back to bed and maybe get another 30-45 minutes of sleep in. During this time, I would very frequently have an OBE. I was already at this point a very metaphysically educated person, but didn't really have any knowledge or "training" regarding OBEs, so I would usually be blind etherically, or I'd be able to jump as high as I wanted but then I'd fall frighteningly to the ground, etc. Although I can't remember if it was upon exit or re-entry, I remember a feeling of vibration in my head, a very physical sensation that would start as a buzz, and within a few seconds sometimes feel almost so "hard" that it was actually painful for a fleeting second, and then it would be gone. Also its worth noting that this often happened when i was lying flat on my stomach, arms above my head; not only laying flat on my back.

Anyway, in summation, try waking up early, taking a shower, then going back to bed and try to have an OBE. Good luck.

[Awakened Soul]

Maybe you still have tension somewhere that you need to get rid off. Perhaps spending more time on relaxation techniques will do the trick.

[psyko_tripper]

You are very correct Awakened Soul!!  

The tension was indeed the problem causing these unconfortable sensations.

Now I do a full body relaxation exercice before energy work and things have been going smoothly...

[maverick7h]

It will take me a paragraph or two to get to the point, but this whole post is relavent I feel. I would love for anyone to read it and offer their thoughts.

I believe that, even since my earlier teenage years, I've had more OBE's and supernatural experiences than the average person. I've always been grateful for this life, but I felt like my soul was older than... average you could say. Although any person can achieve almost anything spiritually within a lifetime with enough perserverance, I guess you could say I've always felt that my natural, base-line spiritual abilities were significantly above average as compared to the other souls on this planet in this reality at this "time". At some point in my studies I learned that as young as six or seven I was doing something with my "imagination" that was actually very powerful, very sound warding against evil spirits. Additionally I get nothing more than a minor cold once every few years, even if I am absolutely surrounded by others with viruses. When I do catch a virus from a person, while they take a week or two and antibiotics to heal, I feel better in a day. My physical injuries also heal twice as fast as most people.

I was always the type of person who, If you told me how something happened, I would ask "well what happened before that?" Big bang? Ok well what was there before that? God? Ok well what was there before that? This of course drove me into the study of metaphysics at a very early age. As young as 11. I've always considered myself a seeker of truth. I would research as many metaphysical and religious views and variations as possible. In summary, my theory was that the empirical summation of all the common factors of all religions and spiritual opinions was the closest thing to the truth that I could find on this world. Naturally, I believe that as time progressed and my education continued I only got closer and closer to the truth.

With Adrian's book, I feel for the first time that this may be the -absolute- truth; that no further searching is needed; all that remains is to advance myself spiritually, now that I have a clear path to take.

Don't worry, I'm almost to the relevance of the topic.

When I was young, when I would have an OBE or a half-OBE-half-lucid-dream sort of thing, along with my lucidity always came the thought "this is great, but surely sometime evil will come and ruin it" or just experience general fear, which would of course manifest something fearful that would force me out of the dream, even if it was nothing but a mass of black-nothingness (which it usually was, since there is hardly anything material that I truly fear). Or I would manage to fly or jump infinitely high, only to at some point realize "uh-oh, eventually I'm going to start falling" and indeed begin to fall.

Since recently reading Adrian's book, I have had several OBE's in relatively short succession. Though my clarity is still inadequate, my composure is greatly improved. I immediately realize what's happened to me, and start "thinking" about what to do next to try to improve my clarity or make this a good experience or whatever. Curiously, in place of the instances where I would become overcome by fear, I now deliberately conjure the "fear" in some materialized form, while at the same time conjuring a means to destory it. And then I do. I then remain in the state free to do as I wish, and work on raising my vibration as high as I can, like exercising a muscle. This is exclusively what I've been doing with my OBE's and astral projections since I still can't see or move clearly enough to do much more.

Fighting my inner demons perhaps? This process seems to be only partly voluntary as conciously I see no need for it and would rather just skip the evil-thing part of an OBE entirely. I expect once I've "slain" enough of these inner demons, I won't need to do this anymore since this is essentially an elementary practice of composure and control.

While I would like feedback on this as well, this is not the ultimate reason for this post, but merely a pre-requisite I think.

Below is the strangest experience I've had yet. It started feeling like a "dream" more or less, but in the dream I was right at my computer, which is in the room I sleep, and my surroundings were entirely clear and accurate to reality, so I guess I was having an etheral experience. While on my computer, conversing with a group of people I know, another real-life person appeared that I know to be a person more spiritually evolved than many people and deserves respect. I do not know this person personally and I did not even interact with this person in my "dream", but as I thought "this person is spiritually evolved" I simultaneously released into a full OBE state. I assume the thought "spiritually evolved" is what triggered me out.

I felt the good vibrational feeling that comes with OBEs, and I could "hear" the vibration that I know (at least, strongly believe) to be my own, which "sounds" like a sort of subtle high-pitched ring, but not in an unpleasant manner. This is typical for me. What was not typical was a second vibration that I felt and heard. It felt very "solid". This vibration was much lower and deeper, with short intervals between. The closest sound I can think of to compare is the slow, low-pitched sound effect used for the "alien transmission" in the movie Contact. Let me point out that I know often during an OBE or pre-OBE people feel such vibrations, as do I, but this felt and sounded different than usual. I immediately thought "the heartbeat of the Earth!", which seemed the correct assumption to me both while out of body and after returning to a fully concious state. Here's the thing though. I live with my girlfriend.

During my OBE, she was already in bed with me, and I heard her call my name physically. So I (and this made me laugh out loud later) clumsily moon-walked back into my body and asked her what was wrong. She replied that she had just seen the devil. I told her that there is no devil but there are spirits that could pretend to be to mess with you. My girlfriend is a relatively negative person, usually assuming things will get worse instead of better (and so they do) and usually thinking with the glass half empty. This may terminate our relationship as I know she is a hindrance to my spiritual evolution but that is another story. I know beyond a doubt that what she saw could not have been myself. But due to her attitude I would not rule out her frequencies attacting... lesser spirits. I guess my ultimate question is, what was this second vibration I felt? Was it the presense of the "evil spirit" she saw in her sleep? Was it just a coincidential dream she had and I WAS feeling the hearbeat of the Earth?  Is it just that my own vibrations are becoming more refined? Was it something else completely? Like I said I still don't have very good "visual" clarity during these experiences, so I could easily miss such a presense, but I am well protected from them and not worried about myself. I'm just looking for discussion to help myself advance and maybe help us all. Think about it. Please offer your feedback. Especially Adrian and others with solid OBE and Astral experience. I would love to hear your opinions.

[maverick7h]

Nobody has anything to say? I'm dissappointed

[Adrian]

Hello maverick7h,

Apologies for the delay in replying; I did read this when you posted it, but there is alot to take in, and I have been inundated with emails.

First and foremost you need to control your thoughts out of body; which of course you realise. It is excellent to hear that you are enjoying a succession of OBE's after reading my book however.

But it seems to me that you are fighting yourself out of body. You expect evil beings, fight them when you create that reality, and then find yourself back to square one.

Now, if you leave your body thinking about your "inner demons" you will either become one, not in absolute terms of course but just the image of one, or you will create a demon, again not a real demon but it might as well be for how real it looks.

Now, as we all awake we go through a stage where we are still out of phase with our physical body and still have "Astral sight" where you can "see" through closed eyelids. What you are seeing though is not your physical surroundings but the Astral reflection of it. In this state you can clearly "see" anyone who is out of body including projectors and of course "deceased" people as well as other beings.

My guess is that your girlfriend might have been disturbed and in a semi-wakened state saw you out of body as one of your inner-demons.

I hope that makes sense

Best regards,

Adrian.

[maverick7h]

Well, the manifesting of evil thing only occurs when I have a lucid dream -> OBE experience, but this was a more direct concious OBE. I suppose it could have been some reflection of myself or perhaps just my girlfriend seeing me but mixing it with her own semi-dream state as well. As a side note, I think fighting the way I do is a step up from most people, who experience extreme fear for their first several experiences, which can block them forever. I may have issues that I need to sort out, but fear is no longer one of them and that is a valuable fact; if I am ever faced by a true thing of evil, it will have no power over me.

 Another theory that I "coincidentally" came across was from an interesting source. You could say I "walk in the light" for sure but I came across a major information hub for "spiritual satanists" which was a very interesting thing to review. They don't understand karma, or maybe they do but take to literally their right to do equal good and bad. The most interesting thing is their belief that Christians have it almost completely backwards, that the Christian God is a false god out to enslave humans and remove free will, angels are often harmful to you, and it is actually satan's demons that are the gaurdians, etc. Their beliefs actually make a lot of sense, but are ultimately incorrect considering they would still be acknowledging the reality of Christianity and the Gods known before Christianity. Another interesting fact is that their material for spiritual training (to eventually lead to "dark magic" and such) is almost the exact path discussed in sources like OUR. All the meditations and concentration exercises are very similar. Its all there. The only difference is they teach the invoking of the elements along the road. I take it with a grain of salt of course but respected the information I was lead to as I would any other new source of information, since earlier that day I had asked for an answer. I mention this only because if there had truly been an external evil presence during that particular OBE, I would have felt it, but I felt no evil, only good. If what my girlfriend saw was an entity other than myself, then it would quite clearly fit the spiritual satanist's description of "gaurdian demons". Quite a coincidence indeed. She had told me that when she looked at it, it "stuck its tongue at her like it was playing, then winked and gave a thumbs up". I don't think its even in my subconcious capacity to do something like that. Is anyone familiar with these people anyway?

I frequently wake up seeing through closed eyelids as well. Good stuff. Here's an interesting tidbit. At night, when its close to time for me to sleep, if I try to gain etheral sight, my eyes reflexively want to open as soon as I start making progress. So instead I let my eyes stay open, but pay no attention to what they are seeing. Shortly that familiar "darkness" washes over my open eyes and is soon replaced by the astral reflection of  my surroundings. Interesting, I think, that I have more success with my eyes open than closed. This  of course is when I'm only trying to work on my pineal vision not when I am trying to project.

By the way Adrian thanks for the reply.

[Adrian]

Hello maverick7h,

That is very interesting about the satanists.

One of the main issues is that there are too many extremes; i.e. people see things at one end of the polarity or the other, without recognising balance.

As it happens they are all wrong because they all see their "God" or "satan" as personified beings and take things personally. As it is there is no such separatedness and therefore accordingly everything equally applies to everything else.

My next newsletter will include a feature on good and "evil" because so many people ask about it.

With regards to your Astral vision; what you have described is in fact one of the easiest ways of achieving an OBE if you can control the process.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[arthur]

hi my name is Arthur. I've been reading your book Adrin and I honestly feel for the first time in my life that someone out there understands,and that im not alone. I've had many O.B.E's and i've seen many entities. For a very long time I thought I was crazy or possesed. My grandmother used to tell me to pray and just have fath but for me that was not enough of an answer. Over the years i've learned to educate myself the best that I could but all the teachers i had felt that had the same type of experiences were already passed. I just wanted to thank you for writting this book. My first O.B.E. involving guides was scary for me because I was floating in the middle of a white void. there was nothing there at all no gravity or nothing. the white nothingness went on as far as I could see and then out of nowere two forms of light that looked like human formed right in front of me.as this was happening a thought came over me,"who is that". then I felt my whole self vibrate, a blur left from within me and floated to these two light forms, bounced off of them came back to me and all at once I felt, not heard what they said. they said,"we are enities". from the second vibration i think I got scared and woke up from It.It was realy weird to me though because I thought I was already awake.I thought I was going crazy. I started asking myself if it realy had happened or not. I never saw those entities of light again but then after that I started seeing entities of darkness. shadows that would pull at my arms and legs and that would even try to hold me down. I could always get away from them though,they didn't feel like they were that strong. Is there any advise you coud give to me on how I could see these entities again?   thanks Arthur

[Astral Pimp]

Hi,

Can anyone give me information regarding astral sex? Im trying to become a master at it.

Thanks,

The Astral Pimp

[the welshman]

I'm a martial artist, and I'd like to use my time on the Astral plane to train. An extra few hours of training would certainly give me an edge.  

Do you think I could find a gym where I could have a training experience the same as I would in the real world?

[Adrian]

I'm a martial artist, and I'd like to use my time on the Astral plane to train. An extra few hours of training would certainly give me an edge.  

Do you think I could find a gym where I could have a training experience the same as I would in the real world?

Hello The Welshman,

I am not sure that you find a gym very easily in the Astral because such things are not required. Physical disciplines are only appropriate to the physical world. I realise martial arts can also involve Energy etc..

And there is no such thing as "time" in the Astral; only Now.

Best regards,

Adrian.

[the welshman]

Would it not be possible to create the required environment on the Astral Plane?