Teka
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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2005, 19:01:04 » |
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I'm just checking in to see if others are having similar experiences to mine.
First, there's a level of projection that is one step out from the physical body and the etheric body, in which I'm a center of consciousness that can observe and move around in this world. Actually, it looks like this world, but it seems to be a mixture of mind (thoughts & imagination) and the physical world.
Then, from that conscious entitiy, you can go "up" to the Astral planes. I say "up" because that seems the only direction of path open to me. Now, I can travel on my own through a dark buffer zone until a scene begins appearing, or I can enter a large blue orb ... which, it turns out, seems to be a personal transportation "thing" that takes me to another dimension.
Sometimes guides appear in the buffer zone, and tell me to keep going in the direction headed. Surprisingly, those guides are often the radiant forms of teachers who still have a physical body in this world.
One I reach a destination, a scene, then I'm nearly always in the presence of a guide, and our only business is spiritual work. Usually the guide instructs me to meditate, which at this realm is more like getting my consciousness to entrain with the general frequencies of the particular realm I find myself in. This is sometimes a difficult task, as it seems that there are habitual frequencies that I've carried from the physical dimension that keeps my focused attention a bit out of phase with the realm I'm visiting.
The guides in the lower astral realms appear to also be healers, as they do stuff like hold my head in their hands ... put their forehead to mine, and have me keep still in order to transmit their radiance from "brain to brain" ... so it seems.
Also, the first stopping off place is usually a large, glorious lake that my guide refers to as the Lake of Purification. It's surrounded by dark, but beautiful, steep, friendly mountains. Sometimes my guide has me go into the lake, and from that experience I can understand why it has it's name.
The guide I usually see is a beautiful woman who might be about 30-something in earth years, who's name is Mirriam. About 25 years ago, my wife and I had twins that were born prematurely ... both of them died ... Violet at 1 month, and Miriam at 6 months. My guide says that she, indeed, is Miriam.
What's remarkable about our astral relationship is that Miriam is all about the spiritual bussiness at hand. She accepts (without any attachment) the experience we shared 25 years ago, and she seems to place it in a perspective that ... well, it places that experience in the perspective of in "the light of all eternity." So, that experience we shared decades ago seems to be equally as important (but not more important) than the hundreds, maybe thousands of other lives we've all had ... but certainly not as important as NOW --- being fully conscious entitities in the astral realms, wanting to make spiritual progrsess. It's truly awesome to gain that perspective from her.
And, I've been to magnificent caverns of great beauty and have seen what can only be described as cosmic mountains, waterfalls, meadows and many natural scenes. In some of the more beautiful places, there seems to be a geometric arrangement to nature as if magnetic fields are creating everything.
So the inward, fully conscious journey through the astral planes seem to be of a very high spiritual nature. That is, that's the only thing that opens up and develops into reality before me. It's the only game in town.
For about 9 months after I was able to go OBE at will, I expected the astral planes to be more like what you see while dreaming. But for me, that never developed ... during the fully conscious projection experience. It seems that the only thing that really opens up are the incredibly cosmic, spiritual experiences that I described above.
Is this, or something like this, resonate with others? ... Are you having experiences like this? ... Or, do you have a faint memory of the things I'm talking about?
Peace & Blessings,
Teka
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2005, 21:29:39 » |
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Pleasure to be here! The implications of conscious out of body experiences are underated and severely negated by my closest loved ones Nevermind, i look after myself and God looks after everyone else I would just like to describe an experience i had in an obe, where i find myself hovering at my ceiling, realised i was having an obe, smiled profusely, thinking i must return and tell my partner. I zoom back, turn physically and speak to him , he answered me. I did not wake first, contemplate for a few moments, then speak, it was one action. I am wondering if any one else has experienced this. Also, i have had obes where my eyes start to feel heavy , like im about to loose consciousness. Am i too close to my body? is there some kind of pull back here? Thanks for listening. Paola
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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2005, 17:10:05 » |
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Hello everyone,
Thank you for your experiences!
There is no doubt that using the sleep cycles is one of the best methods of achieving Astral projection and OBE. There are many reasons for this but the main ones are that during sleep we naturally project anyway, but usuallt unconsciously, and also the physical body is in a natural state of deep physical relaxation which is absolutely fundamental to the process.
So by taking control over these factors almost anyone can achieve Astral projection or OBE.
Once you are "out of your body" you need real presence of Mind because your Mind will infuence everything from that point including returning to your physical body. The best mindset to adopt is one of curiosity, simply observing whatever is going on around you.
Best regards,
Adrian.
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jonmou
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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2005, 15:19:14 » |
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Lately I have been meditating 2-3 times a day. I have been trying really hard to astral project including while awake and in dreams. I started having things happen in meditation such as feeling like my whole body was vibrating which felt to me like a shift of my reality preparing for an OBE. Here is the strange part though. I was dreaming the other night and I all of a sudden realized I was dreaming. In the dream I told myself, "I am in the astral plane", and instantly I found myself floating in darkness. My mind was clear and then I started thinking and I got what looked like a TV screen flashing visions in only one of my eyes, which was strange. I am not sure what to make of that. I think I was just not prepared and didn't know what to do when I got to that state. Here is what has me baffled though. Yesterday I was meditating and after a while my whole body went numb and I felt myself float up. In a matter of moments I felt like I was floating well above my body but everything was still dark. I did what you say in the book, I told myself, "I have total vision of my surroundings", but I still only saw black. I was just floating above myself and no matter what I did I could neither see nor travel any further away. What should I do next time I find myself floating in darkness?
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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2005, 16:32:04 » |
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Your post just reminded me that I did experience some so-called vibrations during this good week-end afternoon nap that I just took but the memory of it is really vague (your post triggered it), thanks somehow indirectly! (But I can not remember anything at all if I have projected dammit). As for this ''darkness'' problem, to say such thing as ''clarity now'' usually helps but I'm far from being a good projector so sorry for my limited knowledge on the subject; other people here will have answers to your questions that is for sure. You seem to progress pretty well though.
Take care,
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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2005, 23:40:15 » |
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I have only recently learned how important perception to the mind is when you have an OBE. The other night I prayed to Jesus to allow me to have an OBE. To help me meet the state of mind necissary to have one, but mostly to recognize when one was happening. Needless to say, my prayer was fully answered, only I didn't recognize the sign I was given. At around 3 in the morning, though at the time I didn't know it was so early, I half awoke do to what I thought was construction outside my house. I could feel the "quakes" from "machinery" on a steady basis of about every few seconds. Upon waking in the ACTUAL morning I realized how foolish I was. I had in fact, for the first time, experienced the vibrations on a mild level. If I would have merely recognized the event and focused I could have had a successful OBE. Another food for thought, perhaps off topic. Until then I had never experienced the vibrations. I have had many stages in relaxation and meditation, but never the vibrations. It was only when I finally simply prayed and asked to bless me with the experience that I got closer than I have ever gotten before. Think about it!!!!
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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2005, 04:52:38 » |
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Hello you all I have been wondering.Has any one here has had a successfull OBE/AP? I mean, when it comes to commiting time to achive this,i do not think that anyone comes even remotley close to what i am putting into this<permitting the time i have to spend on this subject>,and yet, i get to see and read so many of you <specially New regestered memebers>having achived this.I am just puzzled as to how some of you are going about this.I have been using the ABBYSS and doing what i can to think to wake up in my dreams<which seems impossilbe  >and everything that Adrian has mentioned in his books and replies,not only to all of you out there but to myself....and ...still...i am not comming remotly close to any progress that some of you are achiving  <in which case i am very thrilled to hear and see that some peoploe are able to achive this>. The most feelings that i have received from this has been only the heart pounding and REM.....and that was only at the begining....now..i do not even get that. I have committed myself so much that , i have become a vegeterian and cut off all of the caffine and the stuff that are apperantly not good for projections...and yet...i hear people on these forums stating that ...they are under the influence of drugs and are able to achive this  .Am i to propose that this is the only way...not the way that i have been doing  ?Is there something that i am not doing right or not properly to achive this? If any one has any replies that would help out<only if you have had the experince , as i do not wish to have replies just simply because people would like to chat and say something.....NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE>Please fell free to drop a line and be very detalied about your approach..and or you can always PM me. I am appreciative of all of your help and thoughts Blessings to all of ya.
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« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2005, 16:02:43 » |
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Hello Astral_man,
I certainly admire your commitment!
You definitely will succeed one day soon. It might me that you are making too much of a physical effort. One of the keys to success as with most things is to convince your subconscious mind that you can OBE/AP. Make sure that you do this in the present tense as in you can do it now
The best time for OBE or AP is early in the morning after a few hours sleep. It is also common to awake with catalepsy, that is paralysis which means that you have already separated from your body.
I suggest you repeat affirmations just before you drift off to sleep such as "when my body goes to sleep, my Mind remains aware" or "when my body goes to sleep I will leave my body", or "I will now experience leaving my body" or words to that effect. Yiu can make up your own affirmations.
If you can get your subconsions mind on your side you will be well and truly on the way.
The methods detailed in my book are the best methids currently, but this is an extremely important area which we are developing.
Abobe all; keep working towards it and do not get despondent.
Best regards,
Adrian.
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Astral_man
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2005, 14:47:35 » |
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Hello Adrian
I thank you for your Kind Reply.When you stated that " Make sure that you do this in the present tense as in you can do it now",but have provided with some affirmations such as " when my body goes to sleep I will leave my body", or "I will now experience leaving my body",Thisa is still in the future tense.Is this a Typo or am i to say this as if in the future tense. I am very appreicative of your reply and suggestions, and am also wondering....do i try to use ABBYS cd before i go to sleep and so it will improve my chances to OBE/APing? or do i do it in a different time than before going to sleep?. I will be looking forward in hearing from you at your most conveinent time and am gratefull for your kind and timely replies. Blessings
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2005, 17:17:11 » |
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Hi Astral_Man Be careful what you wish for, because I'm going to bet you $10.00 that when you finally get your wish and leave your body for the first time, you would rush back to your body like a little baby  It is very scary the first few times. Especially when you consciously become aware of the initial vibration. Your heart feels like it is breaking into pieces, as a matter of fact your whole body feels like it is going to explode into a tiny pieces, and no matter how tough or courageous you think you are, you would be scared to death. So don't worry about when are you going to have your first projection but rather prepare for your initiation And when it finally happens, don't be scared, nothing could go wrong, in fact there are a lot of helpers around to ensure nothing goes wrong I mean, when it comes to commiting time to achive this,i do not think that anyone comes even remotley close to what i am putting into this<permitting the time i have to spend on this subject>,and yet, i get to see and read so many of you <specially New regestered memebers>having achived this.I am just puzzled as to how some of you are going about this. How's your health? You must have a very good health. Some of us when we are in a robust health our Higher Vehicles turn to interlock strongly with our physical body and that makes separating consciously very difficult. Projecting becomes the easiest when we are on a sick bed. Sickness turns to make the connection very lax and easy to separate. Now, don't go and get sick intentionally When the body is very tired the connection turns to be very loose as well. So you may have to try physical exercise to weaken the physical body a bit. In addition, you may have to train your mind in abstract thought throughout the day. By reading Adrian's Book and other materials relating to the Invisible Realms, your mind is consciously dealing with abstract realities, your imagination soars beyond the physical world. Therefore during sleep when your conscious mind senses the abstract worlds, it finds it very familiar and starts to reason, something like, wait a minute this is a nonphysical world, and that wakes you up and you become fully conscious. So, read Adrian's Book or any other spiritual books throughout the day and before bed. That can help tremendously. Including the physical exercise, and regular meditation. Some people project very effortlessly, others have to work really hard to achieve it. But always remember, there's no effort that goes in vain, your tremendous dedication will eventually pay off At first signs of development, some people notice that their dream recall keeps improving, followed by lucid dreaming, then, the ability to produce, direct, and act in their own dreams. Soon after, they start having vivid dreams of out of body experiences, and then finally kabooooom!! conscious projections  Of course, every body develops differently, so don't take my word for it Never compare other peoples experiences to yours since we all develop differently. For some people it takes days, others months or years. The good thing is that it will eventually happen to you  Just be patient and keep working on it, okay? Cheers 
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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2005, 19:46:58 » |
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Hello Astral_man, Hello Adrian
I thank you for your Kind Reply.When you stated that " Make sure that you do this in the present tense as in you can do it now",but have provided with some affirmations such as " when my body goes to sleep I will leave my body", or "I will now experience leaving my body",Thisa is still in the future tense.Is this a Typo or am i to say this as if in the future tense. I am very appreicative of your reply and suggestions, and am also wondering....do i try to use ABBYS cd before i go to sleep and so it will improve my chances to OBE/APing? or do i do it in a different time than before going to sleep?. I will be looking forward in hearing from you at your most conveinent time and am gratefull for your kind and timely replies. Blessings It is my pleasure and I thank you for your kind remarks. I am here to help in any way I can, so please do not hesitate to ask. I would not play Abyss just before sleep. It takes you down to the theta level already and could prevent you from sleeping. The best time to play abyss is during the day for meditation, manifestation, healing etc., or just after a nap, or better still just after awaking early in the morning. The objective is to keep your mind awake while your body goies back to sleep, so while you listen to Abyss use all of your concentration to visualise something you can remain focussed on. Best regards, Adrian.
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Astral_man
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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2005, 22:08:51 » |
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Hello Adrian Thank you for your great reply and so timely as well. SO i guess that was the big problem,I was listeining to your great CD before falling asleep. I am greatfull for your kind reply and wisdom.I have been reading your book now for almost 3 months now. And it is so great that i have mentioned it to so many of my collegues at work and anyone that i see who needs that little boost to take control of thier own reality<not that i am any shape or position to determine that,but just by seeing how they are struggling thru daily life and so forth.> SO , Agian...Thank you very much for your kind and wisely replies and informative suggestions. PS. Keep up the great work. Many Blessings.
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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2005, 15:36:58 » |
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Hey there fellow OUR ppl  It's been a while; but today I projected again while I was laying in my bed. I've been sleeping for about 6 hours (although not straight) and was still a bit tired, but I felt the conditions for projection were good. You can feel this when you feel really floaty, and indeed, when you are not fully awake yet. It's important not to think too much when you feel that, 'cause when the brain gets too active, you awake too much. Anyway, I also had fallen asleep while doing energy raising/energybody-stimulation techniques by Robert Bruce (I know Adrian doesn't like them, but I find them useful), and I felt that I could wiggle my energybody within my physical body; so instead of thinking, I started to stimulate that even more by forcing the energy body back and forth, loosening it up. Then later I focussed on the third eye, or at least I tried the best I could, and then more then anything, I willed myself straight up... I have been there before, I've projected several times like this, but only when the conditions where perfect/good enough. Anyway, at that moment, when you feel the sensations of projection, you can become scared, and fortunately, I can overcome that feeling by replacing fear with "AAAaaah...finally...yessssssss", and just let go. As usual, I couldn't see for the first couple of seconds (astral blindness from lack of energy??), but it felt like I was floating around in my room. When I could see, I seemed to have projected straight into the astral dimension en I can't remember that part too vividly... I seems like a crossing between my own place and the backyard of my grandparents, that I used to play in as a child. Nice memories I guess. Anyway, although I can't remember every detail; it was a beautiful sunny day and sunny place I was in and altough it's adviced for novice projectors to keep the experience short, I hapily started to explore that nice world I was in after telling myself firmly: "I won't forget about projecting", and indeed; I didn't forgot. Just wanted to share that experience with you, maybe it will be helpful or familliar... c u, A.S.
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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2005, 17:40:10 » |
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thank you for sharing it gives me more will power to continue  i can feel the body sensations but nothing overhelming. That is when doing it before sleep. When trying to project after 6 hours or so i fell back asleep. i will try harder next time.
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« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2005, 12:49:30 » |
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Hello fella's,
I'm able to enter the sleep paralysis state very consistently. I do energy work everyday before going to sleep. What happens is that I fall asleep and wake up in full trance. I'm not able to move my body. It feels like I'm floating and thats when I try to exit my body.
Problem is that I've got this constant pain/pressure in my whole body during this event. If I try to move it gets very intense and I need to wake up by wigling my toes. Even if I just try to relax this pressure gets the best of me. I 've tried many things to overcome this with little effect.
The pain is the worst in my pelvis(on both sides), my hands and my chest. It's really weird. I've noticed that I'm not completely lucid during this event. I know I'm asleep, I can think etc. But it's not that I'm fully 100% conscious which makes me think that there are neg entities and stuff around. But when I wake up I realise how ridiculous this is.
Does anybody have an idea how I can overcome this. Cause I'm on the verge of obe'ing but this stops me cold.
Other problems are, its' dark and I can't see, I'm floating even making circles and stuff and it's very frustrating cause I can't relax into it cause of the enormous pressure I get.
Pardon my bad english, it's not my native language.
Thanx in advance
A fellow searcher...
Oh, and by the way, I smoke cannabis Maybe its' related
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