Selski
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2005, 14:57:12 » |
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Thanks Adrian for your response. I am coming to the conclusion that one's own non-physical exploration doesn't quite take the course that you expect it too, which at times can be very frustrating, and at other times be a wonderful surprise. I've met various "characters" during my experiences, and just as in physical life, I tend to go on gut feeling as to whether I trust them or not. There are two particular people who I've come across more than once, and both I immediately warmed too. In fact one is incredibly similar to a person I know in physical life, so much so, that I often dream about her, and assumed I was dreaming about my friend. I'm not so sure now. The other woman seems to be some sort of helper, but quite aloof, and I have a feeling she would be classed as a guide. It's funny though, I was expecting to meet a really "oh wow" guide with one of those strange sounding names, like Xenobitha or something. It turns out she's a middle-aged Scottish woman who mutters to herself. Of course, this is perfect for me, because I don't feel threatened or awed or mocking about her. I liked her instantly. Actually, I still don't know what her name is - she may surprise me yet. Sarah
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2005, 17:45:04 » |
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Selski,
Thank you for your helpful advice.
Sometimes when I first notice that my hands are out I feel so awake and alert I think to myself I must not be ready to project and then I don't try to exit.
When you notice your astral hands, limbs etc. is it easy for you to project a high percentage of the time?
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2005, 12:22:16 » |
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Sometimes when I first notice that my hands are out I feel so awake and alert I think to myself I must not be ready to project and then I don't try to exit. Hi Swimmingbear Ha ha ha - that's really funny. Many times I've been convinced that I'm waving my physical arms around. But I've learned to just check. My way of checking is a little strange. I push my hands into my face. If they start to go through my face, I know they are astral. Actually, every time I've wondered whether they are physical, they have ALWAYS been astral - I don't wave my physical arms around, but for some reason, my mental awareness at the time is sometimes not as bright to realise this. When you notice your astral hands, limbs etc. is it easy for you to project a high percentage of the time? I would say I've projected every time I notice some part of me is astral. I've got stuck a couple of times and early on (before I discovered rubbing my hands), I only managed to get two-thirds of me out, which is very frustrating!! There was one time I remember getting stuck from the knees down (with the rest of me shimmering around). I wobbled about a bit before losing consciousness! Sarah
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2005, 11:28:40 » |
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Hello Selski,
Thank you for sharing your insights. They are greatly appreciated.
Last night at about 4am I felt my astral hands and arms. I did not have the greatest control over them but I had no hesitation in trying to project. I have decided that when ever I feel a part of my astral body that I will try to project. I belive that I did project but somewhere along the line it turned into a dream and my recollection upon waking was a little fuzzy. I do remember speaking with a few relatives though.
I have recently read a few posts by yourself and Frank regarding Phasing. Since it was still very early in the morning when I awoke I thought I would give it a try. (early morning is still by far the best time for me to experiment) A post by Frank in which he writes about just noticing seemed to really make sense to me. Soon after I began to just relax and notice I see many stars in motion almost like a sideways snowstorm. The stars are in 3D.
As I am watching the stars I distinctly hear someone walk down the stairs and turn the shower on. I think to myself why would my wife be getting up at 4:30 to take a shower. I decide to check it out. Almost without thinking I pop out of my body and float down the stairs. I open the door but I can't see much. I think to myself what if I really startle my wife? So I decide to close the door and go back up stairs. I did a big swan dive into the air and landed back in my body. I can then feel with my arm that my wife is still in bed
I am not sure if this experience qualifies as Phasing but I am encouraged none the least.
There is just something about the early morning for me. I can just sense my astral body so much more easily. I hope to get to the point where it does not matter what time it is any more.
Is it just a matter of practice and experience?
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Adrian
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2005, 13:16:05 » |
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Hello Swimming Bear,
Your Mind controls everything!
There is not doubt that if you can see your Astral hands and arms you are ready to separate from your physical body. However, if you think in terms of "trying" to separate then you are placing yourself in a perpetual state of "trying" and never succeeding. This is where many people fail at so many of these valuable abilities.
Two of the most powerful words are:
I am[/b]
Next time you see your Astral hands use the instruction by thinking it as clearly something like: now I am by the door. And you should find yourself floating there. Likewise if you wish to see a "deceased" relative think clearly as an instruction now I am with...... and state the name of the person you wish to be with.
As for feeling wide awake; that is as it should be. It is your body that needs to remain asleep, not your Mind which is separate from your body.
Congratulations. You are having some great experiences that could lead to many things. While out of body you can also attract things into your physical life much more easily because thoughts manifest much more quickly. So while out of body, create whatever you wish to have in your physical exisitence, and place yourself in that scenarion while enjoying it intensely knowing it is already yours.
We are infinite beings, aspects of The Source, and Out of Body experiences are an excellent way of knowing that beyond doubt. That is why I focus on these abilities so much in my book.
Best regards,
Adrian.
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2005, 09:09:34 » |
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Yesterday I almost got out but i was too preoccupied at watching and kinda of ''feeling'' my legs and arms floating around; it seems i was only attached to the head. Next time i will try using such affirmations to completely get out because pretty soon i found myself in a stupid dream scenario.
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2005, 13:15:03 » |
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Adrain, Thanks for the imput. I will incorporate the words I am and let you know what happens.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2005, 18:24:13 » |
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Hello everyone,
Thanks for the updates.
It is all a matter of presence of Mind and using the Mind to achieve your objectives. By focussing on Astral hands you are fixing yourself in that state. You need to focus somewhere else away from your physical body.
Affirmations help considerably because the subconscious Mind is 90% of your Mind and will do as it is told to do. So if you impress on the subconsious your intentions you will succeed.
This is why the affirmations before sleep method for OBE as detailed in my book is so powerful; the subconsious takes over making it effortless.
Best regards,
Adrian.
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Selski
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2005, 05:19:04 » |
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After reading Adrian's response to the "Astral Hands" thread about using your mind to get around etc., I was fortunate enough to have an experience in the early hours of this morning where I remembered Adrian's words and practiced with them. I had awoken at around 4am or so, and couldn't get back to sleep, so I relaxed and said these words slowly in my head, over and over, with great meaning as I said them. "I am so very relaxed"
"I have a healthy body"
"I have strong muscles"
"I have strong bones"
"I am incredibly relaxed"and so on. I was quite enjoying myself simply doing this. After some time, I began to notice that my right arm (up to the elbow) felt like it was made of water. This is often a "trigger" for me that I'm beginning to separate. "I am having an OBE"And my right astral arm came out. I waved it about and thought about climbing out of my body. Then I remembered Adrian's words, so instead of all that struggling, I simply said, "I am moving away from my physical body"and I found myself going backwards away from the bed, towards the bedroom door, which I went through backwards and continued moving. The bed (which I could still see through the door) got smaller and smaller as I moved away, until something distracted me and I zapped back to the physical. What was interesting was that it was my mind which was totally in control here. I wasn't "moving" myself as such (like deliberately floating or walking). I decided with my mind to move, and my astral body reacted. (As an aside, I was able to "get out" again and spent the rest of my time going through pictures on the wall - typical silly stuff. I seemed to have lost some of my rational thought by then, otherwise I'd have attempted to see a recently deceased relative, by instruction from the mind.) Good stuff though and this could be the start of much better OBEs for me. Actually, I've only just realised that I could see during the whole experience, which is most unusual for me. Thanks Adrian! Sarah
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2005, 07:38:08 » |
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Hello Selski,
Great post.
I look forward to experimenting with the I am commands.
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2005, 19:27:28 » |
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Hello Sarah, Excellent! Thanks for relating that to us. Indeed everything is controlled by the mind providing of course we have the presence of mind to remember that  It is a natural physical type reaction, out of habit, to physically move arms and legs, but of course in the OBE state you have no physical body, so everything is a function of the Mind which is all powerful. The transition to the Astral should be no more difficult than thinking "now I travel inwards". Best regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2005, 04:04:53 » |
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Hi Sarah, thanks for posting that experience.... looking forward to reading more !!
Kind regards, Mark
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Tone
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2005, 13:41:24 » |
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The transition to the Astral should be no more difficult than thinking "now I travel inwards".
Wise words indeed from the master  - if only it were that simple!!! Emphasis required on the "should" I believe. Despite having some involuntary (both conscious & sleeping) OBE's & being fully aware of their existence & my own latent powers, I am finding it very difficult, even with lengthy relaxation & concentration periods & trying at varying times, to consciously inititate anything remotely resembling one. A tad frustrating I must say, as with the on-going attempts to manifest my desires into reality, but as a beginner I can only assume it becomes easier & more likely with continued practice. Great post Sarah - I very much look forward to having similar experiences of my own, but for now I'll just keep on trying & knowing that it's possible, even if success seems to be eluding me at this particular time..  argh.
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2005, 20:21:51 » |
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Hello Tone,
Unfortunately any degree of frustration will thwart your efforts on both counts.
Everything is controlled by the Mind; there are no exceptions. Your state of mind and intent has to be totally tuned to your objectives, and above all you must believe beyond doubt.
This is where affirmations come in; affirmations convince your conscious and in particular subconscious Mind of the belief. This is why the affirmation such as "now I am out of my body with full awareness" as you drift off to sleep will sooner or later bring about an OBE.
Best regards,
Adrian.
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2005, 04:57:25 » |
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Ok, thanks Adrian - I hear what you're saying. In my eagerness to just get on with it & do what I know to be possible I'm obviously expecting results too quickly & letting negativity & doubt creep in due to intruding impatience. Not that I'm short on belief & persistence, just need to display more of them I guess & keep banishing doubt until I find that elusive success!
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