Are we God?

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

I am sure I will come to all the realizations I have to come to on my personal road to Enlightenment...!   

I am sure of that. As Jesus said - one day everyone will achieve the status as him, and even greater.

Everyone is on the same path, and each adventure on Earth or other planet is but a tiny blip in all Eternity, and the begiining of a Path which really only starts after the cycles of Higher Self incarnations are complete.

I only wish to assure you that in no way do I feel separated from God, nor do I strife to "please" God because of any fear. I do not fear God at all. In fact, I only have the most positive emotions in regard to God.

I was speaking generally in my previous post, but of course I am very pleased to hear that.

I hope you can translate these positive and worthy feelings and emotions in to full God-realisation - I am sure you can and will  - and that of course applies to everyone.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian.

In another section of this forum (The Inner Realities/Mind-Consciousness-Oneness - from God or Neurological Brain?)  I have stated that I did not believe that we are entire God – The Source, only a small part of it. We are not even angel or Ascending Masters.

You stated that

“We are expressions of Source. You could argue that does not make us Source, but that depends how you look at it.”

Your quote seems to imply that we are actually not only the expression of the Source, but The Source itself if you look at it in a certain way. Would you please comment on this and on how it is that you would lamp us together also with Angels and Ascending Masters, who are in the hierarchy of their own, the one much more spiritually evolved and with much higher vibrations  that our/s. And they have never been called God, but were always put into their proper categories and discussed only within those categories.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Your quote seems to imply that we are actually not only the expression of the Source, but The Source itself if you look at it in a certain way. Would you please comment on this and on how it is that you would lamp us together also with Angels and Ascending Masters, who are in the hierarchy of their own, the one much more spiritually evolved and with much higher vibrations  that our/s. And they have never been called God, but were always put into their proper categories and discussed only within those categories.

As we are not separate from Source, and as we are expressions of Source with all the inherent qualities, attributes and powers of Source, we are Source.

Angels are not the same Beings as Humans - they are powerful Beings that have never incarnated in to the physical plane, and have a different role in the grand scheme of things.  Angels are not as depicted by religions, they are actually powerful Spiritual Beings of Energy without form.

Ascended Masters are humans that have transcended, i.e. ascended from the cycles of incarnation on the physical plane. Neverthless - both the Beings called Angels and Ascended Masters are still God along with everything else in creation.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Since we are all God, since we are the Source itself, why then differentiate everything into categories and subcategories? That's labeling.

Besides, we are not even close to any of the higher vibrations, but are really in the areas of vibrational fridges - in the very low realms of them, in the abyss of low vibrations. We are in fact so far away from the center of The Source, from the center of the highest vibrations, that it would be inconceivable to consider ourselves to be the Source, to be the highest spiritual vibration, which we are presently not.

Maybe we can venerate the high vibration that is not yet us and is therefore outside of us...

[juliainkc]

Just thinking out loud here and sharing some thoughts.

Since we are all God, since we are the Source itself, why then differentiate everything into categories and subcategories? That's labeling

'Labeling', separating or the naming of things seems to have begun in the Garden of Eden or Genesis story or where that story originated from as in the Sumerian and Babylonian texts. As in man does the labeling, separating, naming. It doesn't say anywhere that 'God', First Cause, Source or as my friend calls it the Cosmic All labeled anything. In a sense to label anything is to limit it.

Besides, we are not even close to any of the higher vibrations, but are really in the areas of vibrational fridges - in the very low realms of them, in the abyss of low vibrations.

We are in fact so far away from the center of The Source, from the center of the highest vibrations, that it would be inconceivable to consider ourselves to be the Source, to be the highest spiritual vibration, which we are presently not.

Where did this thought originate from? I can only share with you here that it this very thought and belief that keeps the 'vicious' repressive and oppressive cycle repeating in the minds and thoughts of mankind and has nothing to do with the Mind of God which is without end.

Anything and everything is conceivable as is very obvious by the diversity of the Universe we are currently living in. Otherwise, it sets limitations in one's mind regarding the natural course of life expanding and denies Source which is Life and gives Life to All, Source never ends or 'dies'.

Perhaps it is in realizing this is one thought and turning it around that we will think and know that we cannot be separate from the All who is In everything, everyone and everywhere.

Maybe we can venerate the high vibration that is not yet us and is therefore outside of us...

It's not so much 'maybe' but realizing that we are Infinite Beings (no beginning or end) in a created Finite reality experience. It is this realization that one begins to see behind the veil or the eyes seeing behind the human eye..........The motors running, always has been, we just have to realize it and put it into motion....that's all that holds anyone back.

We've already got it, it is permeating throught us now, it's just up to us to open our eyes to this understanding and really begin to use it. And IT is in All of us, we are One with Source whether we accept it or not. There really is no 'out there'. A you can run but you can't hide....

I appreciate you allowing me to share....

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Since we are all God, since we are the Source itself, why then differentiate everything into categories and subcategories? That's labeling.

Besides, we are not even close to any of the higher vibrations, but are really in the areas of vibrational fridges - in the very low realms of them, in the abyss of low vibrations. We are in fact so far away from the center of The Source, from the center of the highest vibrations, that it would be inconceivable to consider ourselves to be the Source, to be the highest spiritual vibration, which we are presently not.

Maybe we can venerate the high vibration that is not yet us and is therefore outside of us...

Source is not a fixed Vibration but rather manifests as an alnost infinite range of Vibration.  "Distance" although that only applies to physical space, is really not an issue. Our foot is a few feet from our brain, but both are still parts of the one body.

Some radio stations are on a very different frequency to others, but they are still radio and still serve the same purpose.

I think it is more productive to consider the reasons why we are in fact Source, as opposed to seeking reasons why we may not be.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Some radio stations are on a very different frequency to others, but they are still radio and still serve the same purpose.

Hello Adrian,

Radios are not frequencies. We would be Gods if God were also a radio, i.e. only a receiving station...

If we cannot even generate our own ideas, as God does, we definitely are not God. In "Mind–Consciousness–Oneness - from God or Neurological Brain? " topic you state that humans are only antennas to receive ideas from a Mental Plane, and that they do not invent them by themselves.

I think it is more productive to consider the reasons why we are in fact Source, as opposed to seeking reasons why we may not be.

That would be a very one-sided and limiting way of understanding Reality, if only choosing things - aspects that confirm one's theory or one's understanding how Universe functions. In scientific circles that would be considered to be a very bad science though, unfortunately, that still takes place in science.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Radios are not frequencies. We would be Gods if God were also a radio, i.e. only a receiving station...

Radio waves are frequencies.

If we cannot even generate our own ideas, as God does, we definitely are not God.

As I said before - we need to differentiate between thoughts and ideas, particularly their actual origin which is not the brain.

That would be a very one-sided and limiting way of understanding Reality, if only choosing things - aspects that confirm one's theory or one's understanding how Universe functions. In scientific circles that would be considered to be a very bad science though, unfortuneately, that still takes place in science.

There is considerable evidence that we are Source or aspects of Source, and virtually every culture agrees in some way.  Jesus makes the same point many times.

There is zero evidence of a God that is separate from us in any way.

Only the orthodox religions put forward a God that is separate from humans, which is wht this concept is so difficult to dispell for many people, and which represents the biggest barrier to happiness, success and progress.

Realising that we are God and God is within us is a fundamental prequisite to progress, and the reason why religion is such a barrier to progress.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

Radios receive and play radio frequencies but they do not generate them and in themselves they are not radio frequencies.

A rock is also a God's creation and is not separate from God. Is a rock therefore God?

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

A rock is also a God's creation and is not separate from God. Is a rock therefore God?

Yes absolutely.

A rock is an expression of God and has its own unique Energy that we can actually sense.

There is nothing in creation that is not God.

Our planet, Earth, Gaia, is one huge rock if you wish to look at this way, and Gaia is a great Planetary Spirit - all small rocks are therefore aspects of Gaia. We as humans are also inexorably connected with Gaia.

This is why we must respect all life, organic or inorganic as equals. I welcome all expressions of God into my home including those aspects of God that people view as "vermin".

I know that all of these beings are aspects of myself and I respect and treat them as such.

The basic issue here is that you are may be viewing everything as individual objects or entities in other words your perception is that of duality. Ultimately everything in the Universe is constituted from just one thing - Energy, the fundamental characteristic of which is Vibration, and which in turn is influenced by Mind.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[zensunni7]

" Turn a stone and I am there - break a branch and you will find me. "
Jesus - The Gospel of Thomas.

God permeates all that is - so all is God and God is all.
We continue to travel down the old paths of God, from ancient scriptures, be they any cultural system of beliefs, yet hoping to find new discoveries.Think outside the great box.

I see no reason anymore in  my life to seek God, only to engage God.


WithIn Love
Darrell

[Adrian]

Dear Darrell,

I see no reason anymore in my life to seek God, only to engage God.

Amen to that.

In LVX,

Adrian.

[melody]

" Turn a stone and I am there - break a branch and you will find me. "
Jesus - The Gospel of Thomas.

Hello Zensunni7,

Since branch is God, was Jesus advocating to break God?

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Since branch is God, was Jesus advocating to break God?

I am not speaking for Darrell, but I would just like to say that Jesus, as was often the case, was speaking metaphorically.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
 

[zensunni7]

Hello Melody,

Was that a serious question?
Jesus isn't suggesting anything in my view, he is stating there is nothing in life that does not have God at its center. That what we call God is in everything, everywhere and at every possible level of existence. There is no life without this element of unseen force and power to animate all living life.
The search for God is likened to searching for a treasure you have always possessed. I do not seek what gives me life every morning before I take a breath and enter my day. Were I to seek its source before breathing, I would not be alive.
Worship of God is an act of celebrating life by engaging in it.
There is here an unspoken apprehension to admit unity with God is still something the mind has difficulty finding a resting place in. Seeking always keeps it out in front of us, and not within us. This forum is filled with those seeking the point when unity is a reality and separation fades from reality.
Breaking God is not possible, but it is a requirement to break the mold.

WithIn Love
Darrell