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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2007, 14:23:18 » |
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No art is created solely of conscious effort. The “creative muse” uses all the faculties, memories and associations of the person. Also, a great dose of inspiration and of creative imagination is required.
If somebody mentions a word “rose” you'd immediately have an image of that flower in your mind. Is that Astral? I don't think so. Then your imagination can take this flower as a starting point and make it float in the air, change color, and end in a hand of a girl, etc. The same can be done with any object or concept and it is not Astral. It is simply a capability we have, the human imaginative faculty.
The "Temples of Damanhur" of have a lot of associations from our common heritage. Here are a few themes: vegetation, cathedrals, temples, Art Nouveau, Symbolism, and even New Age art. The artist has a magnificent associative faculty, and a very high imaginative and playful ability. He took a dream as a staring point, a very great starting point, and he developed it further, letting his imagination flow. This is what the schools should be teaching children how to make one's imagination flow. But is this Astral? I would tend to say it is simply an imaginative and playful capacity we all posses but never cared or dared to develop.
When a global art piece like that is presented to us, it resonates with us because it symbolically encompasses many levels of our common human experience. It resonates with the symbols we had formed even from children's fairytales, and other various experiences. Is that Astral? I don't know, I would tend to say no. One thing is sure, it is a magnificent work of art, a triumph of human imagination.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2008, 16:30:51 » |
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Hello Melody, Thanks for the links - interesting. While I think his techniques are proven, it seems to modern and sophisticated for the people of that time. He basiscally applied modern techniques to readily available material. The biggest mystery is the Pryrmaid of Giza which is matemtaically exact and cosmologically aligned with a precision that cannot be replicated today. The alignment and other factors suggest that the pyrmaid could be up to 10,000 years old, and all the other pyramids built thousands of years later are crude copies which are nowhere near as impressive or precise. Who built it is the question and why? Kind regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2008, 18:41:58 » |
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Hello Melody,
Thanks for the links - interesting.
While I think his techniques are proven, it seems to modern and sophisticated for the people of that time. He basiscally applied modern techniques to readily available material.
The biggest mystery is the Pryrmaid of Giza which is matemtaically exact and cosmologically aligned with a precision that cannot be replicated today. The alignment and other factors suggest that the pyrmaid could be up to 10,000 years old, and all the other pyramids built thousands of years later are crude copies which are nowhere near as impressive or precise. Who built it is the question and why?
Kind regards,
Adrian.
Hello Adrian, You seem to contradict yourself. You claim that the man’s techniques are too sophisticated for the ancient people, yet you clearly state how precise and advance the ancients’ building abilities were. Moreover, I fail to see what’s so modern and sophisticated about this guy’s techniques. He is simply using a couple of small rocks, or a few logs to lift a heavy stone block while balancing it like a swing. The guy does not even use leavers or pulleys! His techniques are extremely simple and one can even call them “primitive”.
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2008, 19:06:34 » |
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Hello Melody, You seem to contradict yourself. You claim that the man’s techniques are too sophisticated for the ancient people, yet you clearly state how precise and advance the ancients’ building abilities were.
Moreover, I fail to see what’s so modern and sophisticated about this guy’s techniques. He is simply using a couple of small rocks, or a few logs to lift a heavy stone block while balancing it like a swing. The guy does not even use leavers or pulleys! His techniques are extremely simple and one can even call them “primitive”.
I was implying that the Pyramid of Giza may not have been constructed by "ancient man", but by some other entities, but thousands of years later copied, albeitly much more crudely by the ancient Egyptians. There is no way that humans of nearly 10,000 years ago coud have possible constructed the Great Pyramid. In fact humans of today, with all their technology could not possibly build a copy of the Great Pyramid - that is widely acknowledged. The person lifting stones was demonstrating how Stone Henge might have been built. Apart from the fact it is not applicable to the incredible precision of the pyramaid or size of the blocks used, his thinking was modern. The ancients would not have thought in the same terms. More impressive is how they moved the stones many miles across land from Wales. Kind regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2008, 20:13:39 » |
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The man also demonstrated how the rocks can be moved, not only lifted.
There is really no way for us to know how the ancient men were thinking, but there is really nothing mysterious or "moden" about putting two small stones under a large rock and then swinging the rock to one side and then to the other in order to to move it straight forward. The ancient men might have had a few such "tricks" under their hats that we still have not discovered.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2008, 04:54:28 » |
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Hello Melody, The man also demonstrated how the rocks can be moved, not only lifted.
There is really no way for us to know how the ancient men were thinking, but there is really nothing mysterious or "moden" about putting two small stones under a large rock and then swinging the rock to one side and then to the other in order to to move it straight forward. The ancient men might have had a few such "tricks" under their hats that we still have not discovered.
That is true of course, but you would have thought the wheel was an obvious invention, yet it only appeared maybe 3000 years ago if that. In the case of Stonhenge I agree it is a possibility, but the Great Pyrmaid is a very different matter, as, for that matter, are other ancient structures such as those built by the Mayans and other Mesoamerican advanced civilisations. The Maya did not even have metal, much less the wheel. It is a fact that "modern society" with its modern engineering equipment, often has no appreciation of the immense achievments of the ancients, which makes todays architecture look positively primitive by comparison. Kind regards, Adrian
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2008, 20:58:30 » |
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I was implying that the Pyramid of Giza may not have been constructed by "ancient man", but by some other entities, but thousands of years later copied, albeitly much more crudely by the ancient Egyptians. There is no way that humans of nearly 10,000 years ago coud have possible constructed the Great Pyramid.
In fact humans of today, with all their technology could not possibly build a copy of the Great Pyramid - that is widely acknowledged.
Hello Adrian, According to a Native American prophesy, we are the 4th human civilization living on this Earth. The previous ones have self destructed, and so will we. The ancient pyramids might have been built with the previous human civilization knowledge of which we no longer have any recollection except for such legends as those of Atlantis. It is quite possible that those pyramids were not build by any “entities” but by humans…
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 04:00:16 » |
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Hello Melody, Hello Adrian,
According to a Native American prophesy, we are the 4th human civilization living on this Earth. The previous ones have self destructed, and so will we. The ancient pyramids might have been built with the previous human civilization knowledge of which we no longer have any recollection except for such legends as those of Atlantis.
It is quite possible that those pyramids were not build by any “entities” but by humans…
Yes you are absolutely right. According to the Hopi and many other cultures we are now entering the 5th World of humanity. The outcome is still to be decided by the consciousness of humanity - as you mentioned, the other "Worlds" or "Ages" did not have the happiest outcomes. This time it is more important than ever, because it completes one 25,800 year cycle of the previous 4 Ages and begins another as marked by the Mayan calendar. I was using "entities" as a generic term which could mean anything or anyone. There is almost no doubt that during previous Aages humanity has interacted with extra-terrestrial Beings that have both helped and hindered humanity in the past. The Great Pyramid might gave been constructed with their help. From what we know the previous "versions" of humanity still did not have technology as we know it today. Kind regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2008, 16:37:05 » |
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A 3,000 year old Egyptian city has been just unearthed. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hf3eLr-5tZXQIkV8ytoE34WwyLGwD90URFG81“Ancient Egyptian city unearthed in Sinai By MAAMOUN YOUSSEF CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — Archaeologists exploring an old military road in the Sinai have unearthed 3,000-year-old remains from an ancient fortified city, the largest yet found in Egypt, antiquities authorities announced Wednesday. Among the discoveries at the site was a relief of King Thutmose II (1516-1504 B.C.), thought to be the first such royal monument discovered in Sinai, said Zahi Hawass, chief of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities. It indicates that Thutmose II may have built a fort near the ancient city, located about two miles northeast of present day Qantara and known historically as Tharu. A 550-by-275-yard mud brick fort with several 13-foot-high towers dating to King Ramses II (1304-1237 B.C.) was unearthed in the same area, he said. Hawass said early studies suggested the fort had been Egypt's military headquarters from the New Kingdom (1569-1081 B.C.) until the Ptolemaic era, a period of about 1500 years. The ancient military road, known as "Way of Horus," once connected Egypt to Palestine and is close to present-day Rafah, which borders the Palestinian territory of Gaza. Archaeologist Mohammed Abdel-Maqsoud, chief of the excavation team, said the discovery was part of a joint project with the Culture Ministry that started in 1986 to find fortresses along that military road. Abdel-Maqsoud said the mission also located the first ever New Kingdom temple to be found in northern Sinai, which earlier studies indicated was built on top of an 18th Dynasty fort (1569-1315 B.C.). A collection of reliefs belonging to King Ramses II and King Seti I (1314-1304 B.C.) were also unearthed with rows of warehouses used by the ancient Egyptian army during the New Kingdom era to store wheat and weapons, he said. Abdel-Maqsoud said the new discoveries corresponded to the inscriptions of the Way of Horus found on the walls of the Karnak Temple in Luxor which illustrated the features of 11 military fortresses that protected Egypt's eastern borders. Only five of them have been discovered to date. “
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2008, 00:53:55 » |
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Amazing how the egyptians could build such wonders without the horrible environmental pollution that we employ to get the job done, isn't it?
Maybe if we went back to truly using the worlds resources right as they come our buildings and such could survive for thousands and thousands of years like the sphinx and other such unbeleivable monuments.
Be nice to the earth, Gaia, and she in turn will grant your project protection from harm? Karma? I think so.
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P.S. Its good to be back. Hi YET AGAIN melody. Great to see that you are still taking it upon yourself to research and share with us the amazing facts you uncover. Thank you for all you do for everyone here!
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So if that was now, and this is now, and the future is now....you're saying that the train leaving from Boston at 45 MPH is green, right?
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2008, 05:41:28 » |
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Amazing how the egyptians could build such wonders without the horrible environmental pollution that we employ to get the job done, isn't it?
Yeah, sure; if you have enough slaves that you can literally whip up to do the dirty work for you...
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2008, 12:27:43 » |
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Yes I suppose thats a good point Awakened Soul, the thought escaped me at the moment I wrote that, I was focused more on the buliding materials and the construction methods, forgot that the labor was not the best paid.
I still stand by the fact that by incorporating less harmful construction and buliding methods that our houses, and buildings, etc would hold up better.
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Before you point fingers, make sure your hands are clean- Bob Marley
So if that was now, and this is now, and the future is now....you're saying that the train leaving from Boston at 45 MPH is green, right?
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2008, 12:36:13 » |
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Yes I suppose thats a good point Awakened Soul, the thought escaped me at the moment I wrote that, I was focused more on the buliding materials and the construction methods, forgot that the labor was not the best paid.
I still stand by the fact that by incorporating less harmful construction and buliding methods that our houses, and buildings, etc would hold up better.
Werp.
Oh, but I agree with that. Especially if it's true that we're denied Free Energy. I just wanted to point out that not everything about the Egyptians is so ethical and admirable.
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2008, 12:39:10 » |
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Denied free energy? What exactly do you mean by that?
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Before you point fingers, make sure your hands are clean- Bob Marley
So if that was now, and this is now, and the future is now....you're saying that the train leaving from Boston at 45 MPH is green, right?
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