40 day challenge: Vegan Diet (November 15 - December 25)!

[Mina-Laura]

Hi Julia, Freedom and all

I can see a lot of remarks have been addressed at my choice of a 40 day challenge diet.
......

I am sorry I never meant to make anything huge out of it, when I started this I thought, well perhaps if someone would join me I could share this journey. That's all. Now, in retrospect perhaps I should have just kept quiet about it.

Truth is at start I had no idea even why do I chose to do it. I just had this thing inside: "I have to do it!". Even my girls were like: "Oh yeah, let's see you." ..lol.. such small faith in their Mom...
And it was just one of those things, well if others can do it why can't I? Generations of religious observers have done and it just seems is becoming a lost art. I am talking generally. Yet, it seems such a huge task to give up nourishment originating from animal source. It is!! One day and is not easy, you only have to look up all the 'ingredients' of some foods that you would normally buy.

Well now after 2 weeks I can see more about what this challenge means (to me at least).
It is a lot about self-discipline and following through with it. Is not about food at all anymore. Is more about trust in myself and loving myself at a different level.
When I started on it I envisioned the 'end of fasting' and what I will eat then. Now...it doesn't matter anymore. Is honestly difficult to put in words.

Talker, about living out of light I don't think I'm at that stage yet and I'm not even sure if anyone is to tell you the truth. A long time ago I had moment when just eating seemed to much and I would have gladly taken one of those astronauts pills. he he he I remember in Star Trek one of the most fascinating features was that food preparation station. You would just say what you desire and voila out of thin air there it was. I tell you!!! the very obsession of a overworked housewife.
How many times I am there and 'think' if I didn't had to feed my kids I would gladly skip all the trouble. Groceries, cooking, cleaning after and so on... I think one of the most enviable feature of those super-rich is this freedom of having things prepared for you, and only do the occasional cooking when in mood. HOWEVER!! if you were like that would you be able to cook stuff from scratch? Forget about all the perks of this civilised world. Start from grain seeds and so on...

Anyway I guess I'm ranting (and Julia is going to laugh at me and say is the after effects of going to extremes and then I will have to say: what about Adrian...AND it just hit me, wow ..hmmm)

Laura? better get on with something more constructive

Anyway guys please just don't make anything more out of this. It isn't.

love - Laura

[juliainkc]

Hi Beloved Sister Laura and All ~

Well now after 2 weeks I can see more about what this challenge means (to me at least).
It is a lot about self-discipline and following through with it. Is not about food at all anymore. Is more about trust in myself and loving myself at a different level.
When I started on it I envisioned the 'end of fasting' and what I will eat then. Now...it doesn't matter anymore. Is honestly difficult to put in words.

Anyway guys please just don't make anything more out of this. It isn't.

love - Laura

Thank you so much for sharing this!! Yay!! Yes! Yes! YES!! Just me jumping on the clouds with you my sister. It is difficult to put into words. You rock and I am for one grateful that you jumped into the experience.

It's experiences like these that show us the amazing value of as I believe Einstein said, 'Leave All Expectations at the Door."

Be Surprised. I for one Love surprises.

I love you Laura and All ~

In Divine Spirit, Your Sister,

Julia

Laura, my gift of Spiritual Food for thought to take with you and nourish you today;

"Illumination is Light in the mind. Word made flesh, the integration of heaven and earth. Illumination is not of this world. It lifts us up above the lies of the world by helping us to detach from them." ~ calendar reading for today

Gift wrapped in kiss and hugs ~ Julia

[wavepsychic]

I DIDN'T KNOW THIS FORUM EXISTED!

Hi everyone
Love and LIGHT!!! prana energy!

I found this today, just now...

http://www.librarising.com/health/monyvital.html

It is an interview with a guy that lives on light.
Remember I said I am not too much into eating... well, it seems I could be on the right path. I always wondered why I survive so much better by hardly eating much. Now , if he is correct, I know.
So, I don't even have to join in with the vegan quest. Linda Goodman said to quit heavy foods bit by bit... i.e: less meat for six months, then less chicken/fish , then less vegies, then less fruit, eventually be a breatharian.  This guy doesn't tell you how, but it shows it is possible.
I agree with heaps of his stuff about everyone eating too much. ( Food is a lust, therefore we perhaps can be weaned off it).
I always had a feeling that eating was killing, and not good for us. Hmmmm... lots to ponder about this site I have put here. Amazing. I would love as many answers as possible once you have read it. It is only a few minutes to read.

Really fascinating stuff.

Love and light and prana to all.

lol at the vegan quest. Thank you for the Breatharian link Freedom. I don't think I read that one yet. I have joined the Vegan Quest AGAIN and once and for all 2 days ago. lol. I need lots of energy so my body can morph. This time the source within is doing it, I'm only going to think about how I like it and not focus on what is happening.

However my main goal is the Breatharian diet.I am practicing Veganism then raw foodie then fasting every other day again. Like you I wanted to skip the Vegan thing because if I have to eat then I want to eat something good. I'd just rather not be hungry at all. I now think Vegan is a step down and will help your body adjust. Keep sun gazing Freedom!

Thank you Laura for that Pyramid and I am glad you are a Vegan. Its something to be proud of! FYI Talker wasn't in the forum. I think you meant Freedom.

Julia I am still so confused, WHEN you do eat what kind of stuff is it? Are you a Vegetarian, Vegan or other?

[Kailaurius]

Hello everyone,

I already posted this in another thread, but I think it is more appropriate in this thread so I'll repeat is here as well.  I've decided I'm going to finally commit myself to being vegan until I have become an inediate.

I've been doing a lot of research on green smoothies and I'm going to give that a try.  The challenge is trying to find organic produce in my area, and it appears to not exist where I live.  I've looked at websites such as:

http://sunorganicfarm.cybrhost.com

and

https://www.diamondorganics.com

but the shipping is just a bit too pricey.  Does anyone know where I can get organic produce without paying a crazy price for shipping?

I was going to use powdered greens anyway in addition to the leafy organic greens so I was thinking about just using the powdered greens found here http://drbenkim.com/greens.html without using any leafy greens.  What do you guys think?

The ingredients I plan to use in the green smoothie is:
Kale for sure
Maybe some Collard Greens
Maybe some Spinach
Dried Acai Berries
Cacao
Hemp
Bananas
Dr. Ben Kim's Greens

If I can't find any organic leafy vegs and fruit I might try to make the smoothie without it, and just use Dr. Ben Kim's Greens, and hope that the cacao will improve the flavor enough.

Also, has anyone tried living off green smoothies alone for a long period of time?  I'd like to only drink the smoothies because they are so easy and quick to make, whereas preparing raw organic entrees take a little more time and effort.

[juliainkc]

Hi Wave and Kailaurius and All ~

I answered your question in the thread of what is normal in the OUR forum.

Kailaurius, I googled a link in there for co-ops in your area.

Love to you and All in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[Mina-Laura]

Hi beloved friends

Well ever since Adrian mentioned his bread maker I had a mind to get one. I was an unbeliever ..lol... because I grew up with the belief that a good housewife is the one that knows how to make the dough raise under her hands    

Anyway I have it!! and I love every minute of it. I just have to stop myself from eating all that bread.

Kai I am not fond of smoothies   I had them to much with baby stages of my 3 children (yuck..brrr) - however I remember reading someplace that we should 'chew' our food, as nature intended. Slow and methodical.
What happens is that with all these processed foods we put in our bodies much more than metabolism can handle. All blended stuff, juices etc are just fine foods that do not exercise your stomach muscles - I guess they are fine for a brief time...
As our body was built it 'knows' what and how much to extract from masticated food. By giving it sublimated particles you just throw it out of balance.

Like Julia here I'm all for middle path. And I LOVE miso soup!!! That seawed is just awesome. And sushi... (droll...lol..)

Luis love thank you!! - the thread it started when you were on your eclipse. ... Yeah!! LOL @ vegan food..yet I can't imagine on how I never tried it before. Hmm actually there were 2 week way back decades ago...

And also!! 2 days of NOTHING. In Orthodox faith starting with Easter Friday and until resurrection which is Sunday at abt 1 am there the braetharian fasting!! My parents were doing it ever since I can remember them. Even now when close to 90s and are still doing it!! That is power.
When I was 14 I joined. I needed the challenge. 1st day was the worse.. 2nd day was quite pleasant. HOWEVER I remember my first bite. I have never experienced such pain in my mouth ...is hard to describe. The fast is broken with a bit of wine - it makes all the difference...



love - Laura

[wavepsychic]

Hello Kail, Laura, Julia and other people

I already posted this in another thread, but I think it is more appropriate in this thread so I'll repeat is here as well.  I've decided I'm going to finally commit myself to being vegan until I have become an inediate.

Awesome. I am glad others share my goal of Breatharianism such as freedom and yourself. I remember when Bakichan first mentioned it, I didn't even know what it was!

I've been doing a lot of research on green smoothies and I'm going to give that a try.  The challenge is trying to find organic produce in my area, and it appears to not exist where I live.

Do you have a Wal-mart in your area? Some of the things it carries claim to be organic. What ever your local grocery store is it should carry some organic stuff since a lot of stores are starting to carry it. I found organic lettuce at my local Shop n' Save.Do you live in a "red state" if your in the US? Seems to me that its the blue state that has the organic Vegan stuff like California or Florida.

I answered your question in the thread of what is normal in the OUR forum.

You did?

Like Julia here I'm all for middle path. And I LOVE miso soup!!! That seawed is just awesome. And sushi... (droll...lol..)

As in raw fish? Thats not even Vegetarian, thats meat.

I started a post under health about Vitamin B12. Click on it and it goes to no where. Do you have that problem or is it just me and no body cares about Vitamin B12?

[Freedom]

Wave , I clicked on your B12 post   three times yesterday, and again today, it goes nowhere. It shows no viewing and no answers, so it hasn't worked, for whatever reason, I cant imagine. You will most probably need to start it again, cos I and others here would love to see it.
 
The oringinal one should be deleted cos its not even there!
How strange is that 

[Kailaurius]

Hi all,

Thanks julia for those links.    I am looking through them now.

Hi Freedom,

Yeah I've tried our local Wal-Mart Supercenter, but their selection of organic produce is extremely small.  The only organics I could find was lettuce and celery and I think something else, but I could find no organic fruit or greens.

If I can't find an inexpensive method to get the organic food I need then I will just have to eat the normal chemical produce from the regular grocery stores.  It won't be any worse or even as unhealthy as what I've been eating.  In the meantime I will continue to purify my food through use of visualization and will continue to use the "Law of Attraction", or as Adrian has put it, the "Principle of Expression" to manifest what I need.  I have no doubt I will get what I need.

Thank you very much to everyone for your help and advice.

[Mina-Laura]

Like Julia here I'm all for middle path. And I LOVE miso soup!!! That seawed is just awesome. And sushi... (droll...lol..)

As in raw fish? That's not even Vegetarian, that's meat.

I started a post under health about Vitamin B12. Click on it and it goes to no where. Do you have that problem or is it just me and no body cares about Vitamin B12?

Oh no no ..lol.. yuck over here where I live most sushi is vegetarian: avocados, cucumbers, carrots, some tofu that looks and tastes like omelet they are really tasty. The raw fish is more and more rare especially that the food protection law dictates that all sushi not sold by closing time should be discarded and honestly I never come across anyone having a thing for raw fish.

Yes the B12 link is broken forget abt it.

love -Laura

[juliainkc]

Hi All ~

Kailaurius, you are welcome my Brother.

Wave, yes I did answer the what are you? I AM GOD expressng as Julia in this Universe.

All I can say about B12 is that it is water soluable so it goes out everyday like Vitamin C and replenishing it can be a great idea. It really assists with maintaining stress levels.

Laura, I love miso soup and seaweed too. My mother never ate sashimi or raw fish. I grew up knowing that sushi was seaweed, rice and veges. Tofu was a staple in my home and I found it funny back in the 70's and 80' that people were making such a big deal out of it. It's fermented soybean. Fermented veges are considered very good for the digestive tract. Like Kimchee and Namasu.

Thank you all for an interesting thread...

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[Kailaurius]

Hmmm, is B12 really a vital supplement?  Do we really need B12?  I'm sure it's already been mentioned in these forums several times, but I just finished doing an extensive search myself and apparently B12 cannot be found in any plant tissue.  It seems that it only comes from animals.  If that is true then for myself I would have to come to the conclusion that we don't need it.  Scientists have been incorrect about a great many things before.  They could most likely be incorrect about B12 as well.

I'm not at all concerned about any vitamin deficiency when it comes to vegetarianism or veganism.  The experts could debate that issue all they want.  Their extensive professional research and studies are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.  The important thing for myself is the preservation and value of life.  My main reason for going vegan is out of pure unconditional Love for all life which includes all animal life, and I am very anxious to get started.  Of course I will be maintaining optimal health for myself by going raw, so I will no longer eat cooked foods either.  Changing my lifestyle to that of a raw vegan is quickly becoming an exciting and interesting challenge. 

[juliainkc]

Depends on your view.

We call it the Lion laying down with the Lamb. Duality? OR bringing all things into Harmony.

Don't need IT? Hmmm. Why then is it even defined.

Just planting seeds for continual expansion and growth.

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Hello Freedom, Laura, Julia, and Kail

Wave , I clicked on your B12 post   three times yesterday, and again today, it goes nowhere. It shows no viewing and no answers, so it hasn't worked, for whatever reason, I cant imagine. You will most probably need to start it again, cos I and others here would love to see it.
 
The oringinal one should be deleted cos its not even there!
How strange is that 

Yes since I first made it and clicked on it I couldn't get it to come up. I sent a letter to Adrian about it. Just today it has a view... Who the hell could view it, thats what I wanna know. Anyway I am going to remake it so hold your thoughts on Vitamin b12.

Oh no no ..lol.. yuck over here where I live most sushi is vegetarian: avocados, cucumbers, carrots, some tofu that looks and tastes like omelet they are really tasty. The raw fish is more and more rare especially that the food protection law dictates that all sushi not sold by closing time should be discarded and honestly I never come across anyone having a thing for raw fish.

Yes the B12 link is broken forget abt it.

love -Laura

sorry I miss understood what sushi is. It is interesting you should mention that which I have in bold. I was learning about Parasites last night and they said that sushi can give you a nasty parasite. So this law sounds like it was caused by parasites. Yuck

Wave, yes I did answer the what are you? I AM GOD expressng as Julia in this Universe.

No! I want to stereotype you based on what you don't eat!

Kailaurius -- I am going to restart the Vitamin B12 and I'll reply to your post there

[wavepsychic]

OK I completely give up so I am just going to post it here. This Video has to do with Vitamin B12. Although Vitamin B12 is produced by Bacteria, meat and dairy are said to be good sources of this Vitamin. Plant based foods are said not to contain any Vitamin B12. The video claims Vitamin B12 is necessary for Red Blood Cell, DNA, and Nerve Tissue. So where do Vegans get their Vitamin B12?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q0bljcr930

Hmmm, is B12 really a vital supplement?  Do we really need B12?  I'm sure it's already been mentioned in these forums several times, but I just finished doing an extensive search myself and apparently B12 cannot be found in any plant tissue.  It seems that it only comes from animals.  If that is true then for myself I would have to come to the conclusion that we don't need it.  Scientists have been incorrect about a great many things before.  They could most likely be incorrect about B12 as well.

I'm not at all concerned about any vitamin deficiency when it comes to vegetarianism or veganism.  The experts could debate that issue all they want.  Their extensive professional research and studies are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.  The important thing for myself is the preservation and value of life.  My main reason for going vegan is out of pure unconditional Love for all life which includes all animal life, and I am very anxious to get started.  Of course I will be maintaining optimal health for myself by going raw, so I will no longer eat cooked foods either.  Changing my lifestyle to that of a raw vegan is quickly becoming an exciting and interesting challenge. 

You are very correct about this. Scientist are wrong, ALOT! I guess our Vegan Spiritual leader doesn't even have any Nerve Tissue! I have even met a kid online who claim to be Vegan his entire live because meat and dairy made him sick.