40 day challenge: Vegan Diet (November 15 - December 25)!

[Mina-Laura]

Hello beloved friends, brothers and sisters

A highlight of early Christian tradition is the great fasting times of the year.  
Fasting in eastern orthodox, or Greek catholic faith means simply being a vegan for that period of time. More drastic observers would break their fast at noon and also abstain from the sexual aspect. As much as my Mom wanted to se me observing the great fasting times of the year I could never bring the rebellious young myself to see the sense in this old tradition. However the irony is that when I become a vegetarian even my Mom was opposed to my apparent extremism…lol…

Anyway as I remembered that one of those great vegan diet fasting times of the year is upon us starting as of November 15 and ending on December 25- Christmas day.
So, here is a challenge for whoever might think that becoming a permanent vegetarian or vegan is way to drastic.
Can you do it for 40 days? 40 days is not forever. However imagine how good would you feel inside if for 40 days no life was taken or blood spilled to feed you. Imagine if the whole world would do the same. Just 40 days.

Anyway I made my decision to be a vegan for 40 days. Please feel free to join me. I just feel that the more we are of us the easier would be to keep this commitment.



Namaste – the divinity in me salutes the divinity of all life on earth

love - Laura

[Mina-Laura]

Day 1

This is Adagio de Albinoni perfomed by Sarah Brightman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK3sXYqnC9w

[Mina-Laura]

Day 2

"Love is a state of being."

[Adrian]

Dear Laura,

Excellent idea and I wish you every success - my thoughts are with you.

I see however a distinct lack of others taking up the challenge. I would do so myself but as you know I am a perennial Vegan. My idea of fun is a "juice fast", that is to say not eating solid food for a time.  My record juice fast is 6 weeks - I could have gone on forever except for the fact it was near Christmas and we enjoy a nice family meal on Christmas day - Vegan for me of course

I know of many, many people who decided to give being vegetarian a go for a month or so, and went on to become full Vegan. After a time, apart from the profound health benefits, people find that they can no longer face, or even stomach the thought of meat. This is because a Vegan diet is our natural state, and once reached there is no going back.

The biggest issue for most would be Vegans is not eating dairy products and especially cheese, but this is a good test, in and of itself of having the willpower to prevail over the Ego Mind.

Please keep us informed as to your progress.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[Mina-Laura]

Thank you Adrian


So far so good, no big deal. Apart from my morning coffee with a drip of milk there's nothing that I really miss. Perhaps the occasional baked stuff. I never really liked cheese.  The only think is perhaps taking more care of myself as to eat properly, because I tend to overlook that a lot in my hurry to take care of others.

But you are correct once a person gets used with healthy type of food it feels wrong eating as before.
I suppose we are lucky here in Toronto as there are so many ethnic foods due to so many different cultures from all over the world. There are so many ways to prepare tasty meals.

This summer while spending 4 weeks in Romania my girls were very surprised that for the people over there the main choice was meat and something (potatoes, rice..).
It was really funny, while staying with my parents in the home I grew up the girls got a habit to visit the chicken pen and talk with the chickens, dog... One day my Mom tells them: “Okay pick one.. which one do you want to eat?” My girls were horrified. They started crying and saying “Please don’t kill them.” My Mom would simply not understand. She was all upset because she went to a lot of trouble raising those chickens from eggs so the girls would have ‘fresh and natural good tasting meat’.
On the same account my girls could not understand how someone can kill their pets. LOL Today’s children don’t quite make the connection that the meat in grocery store used to belong to a live being. They know but do not make the ‘personal’ connection.
I, on the other hand I remember myself in those times when we were eating our own animals and it seemed very normal. However the person that I am today has come a long way ever since.

As about other people personal choices I totally sympathise as is not easy to change habits. Yes it would have been nice to see anyone giving up at least meat for 40 days. Perhaps 40 is to much? Hmm next time I will do 3 days to start with. Then perhaps increase it to 1 week.



love - Laura

[juliainkc]

Hi Laura,

Thank you for sharing this. I appreciate the pyramid as many may not have realized that there was one. And I enjoyed reading about your visit back to Romania.

I was brought up in a home where my mother cooked American style for my dad and brother and I ate from her culture.

This way of eating was ingrained in me. Rice and veges, truly my favorite meal. Miso soup was a staple and she never boiled the water whether making miso or combu, seaweed or tea. She said, don't boil the water, always just let the water get hot enough to steam and take it off then you put your tofu in or take the seaweed off. Sometimes she would put a handful of meat into the seaweed. My mother is a very small boned and built woman.

I inherited lactose intolerance from my mother. So I have never been a 'dairy' person either. I too put a splash of milk into coffee. Once in awhile I do eat an egg but again, lightly cooked with rice. I will eat french cheese on a cracker once in awhile with a glass of wine with friends. I do eat fish and a bite of protein once in awhile.

I give thanks for what I am given no matter what and I am a very healthy Being. Everything in moderation.

Frederic Patenaude does a 31 day raw food challenge as well.

Yes, I know I sound like a devil' advocate about the way one's insist others eat (feels like religion to me), I just feel that much like the Matrix, none of this is real. InJoy the experience. You can eat raw and have all sorts of negative energy and eat steak and have all sorts of loving energy vibes.

Just depends on how you look at it I suppose. And I love the diversity of all ways of living. It makes life colorful and interesting.

Kiss and hugs Laura,

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[Adrian]

Dear Julia, Laura et al,

This is turning in to a fascinating subject.

What is really apparent is the fact that eating habits are formed from a very young age, and the Subconscious Mind has come to expect a certain type of meal three times per day etc.

Not keeping this routine does not affect people from a physical perspective, but from a Subconscious perspective in that the Mind is objecting to a break in an engrained routine. Actually many so called "addictions" are not physical addictions at all. Withdrawal symptoms are the Subconscious Mind's way of letting you know it is still expecting its "usual" food.

The most ironic aspect of a raw Vegan diet is the fact that raw, natural whole food is the diet the human being has been "designed" to eat, and is therefore optimum. This is why Vegans live on average 7 years longer than meat and dairy eaters.

Food should never be a religion, but I certainly agree that it is for many people, especially those who are "creatures of habit".

The main objection I have heard about Vegan food is that it is not "filling". It does seem strange in that raw plant based foods are more filling than processed meat etc. I am certain that these are objections of the Subconscious Mind again.

When I receive messages from people who are making a serious attempt to become Began, but do not find the food "filling" is to eat bread. I know bread is not raw vegan, but providing the balance of the diet is raw vegan it is perfectly acceptable.

It is best of course to make your own bread, because supermarket bread is stuffed full of chemicals for various reasons. A bread maker is great fun - just put all the ingredients in, push a couple of buttons, and in 4 hours a totally fresh, hot loaf.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[juliainkc]

Good Morning Dear Adrian,

This is indeed a fascinating subject.

I agree that we are 'trained' to eat three squares a day, sleep eight hours a day and so on. Sounds like prison to me!

I confess that I due to my upbringing had issues with 'authority'. Mine. I know I am speaking truth in humor here.

What I have been sharing perhaps not very clearly is that we have the power to rule our own lives. We are not some animal in a cage being told what, when, where. So that is why I say the HOW is very important. How being from the position of beyond the Subconscious Mind.

We Being Royalty are pre-ordained for this experience with the true realization that while it is not real, we must take care of our play things and play area, play fair, not forgetting for a moment who we truly are!!

Each one defines this differently. Same Parents different points of what that means. I have two daughters and as a mother I showed them how to clean their rooms. Well Adrian, a lesson in diversity.

Sommer is Ms. Clean and Sara is clean but when little, her idea was to push everything under her bed, make the bed making sure the coverlet was level with the floor to 'hide' the evidence. Sommer ever the 'Mary Poppins' would inform me of her sister's housekeeping.

Now, I just allow each to do as they please as long as they keep it in their own space and out of mine. Keeps me sane.

When I eat, I can actually consume quite a bit. I just don't eat till I am stuffed. Just content. Travel Light.

I just apply this to my way of Being around all others. Each are free to do as they please and if they are Joy full it shows as mine does when I am doing what makes me feel good.

I love bread Adrian!! Homemade bread is very dense and filling. One slice is equal to at least four or five of pretend bread as I have called it. That's just me saying this folks.

Ah well. One step by one step. Laura, you shared a wonderful idea of doing it for one day or three days and so on.

Adrian, I agree with you that many so called 'addictions' are not physical addictions at all. The mind tells the body what to do. It sets off triggers, it's wanting an experience based on a conditioned response and the body follows.

I appreciate you Adrian. Namaste.

Love to you and all in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[Kailaurius]

I agree that we are 'trained' to eat three squares a day, sleep eight hours a day and so on. Sounds like prison to me!

Hehe, yeah me too.

My mother told me she tried to feed me meat since birth (after first being weened off milk of course), but it was very difficult because I did not like it.  She said I didn't like the texture at first and would always gag on it.  All I would eat were vegetables.  But given that she was brainwashed into the same ideology that people need meat for protein and such she continued feeding me meat until eventually I started eating and liking it.  Surprisingly I do have flashbacks of my mother trying to feed me the baby food made of meat.  I vividly remember swaying my head side to side trying to avoid the food.  I also remember at a very young age when I was old enough to eat solid foods that I could not swallow steaks very well as I would gag on that as well.  I could not tolerate the texture going down my throat.  Eventually I reached the point to where I could not tolerate vegetables and the only food in my diet was meat, bread, dairy, and potatoes.  My mother, being very spiritual, says she now regrets forcing me to eat meat knowing what she knows now.  All through my childhood years and through young adulthood I could not stomach the taste of vegetables and would gag at any attempt to eat any of them.  Gladly however, I can and do eat any and all vegetables.  The more I eat them the more I enjoy eating them.  The ones I still don't like I eat them anyway as part of overcoming my ego's desire to eat comfort foods.

Anyway my point is that I understand what is being said about eating habits being formed from a very young age.  That being said I have no regrets or guilt about being conditioned to eating a lifestyle of meat.  For me it's another wonderful challenge at transcending my ego.  For myself I still find eating a binding activity and one that I prefer to be free from.  Becoming an inediate is still one of several results I would like to have manifest during my spiritual development, and one in which I have no doubt will.

[juliainkc]

Hi Kailaurius,

I had to laugh along with you at your story here. Yes, I remember gagging too, especially on liver. YUCK!! Sorry everyone.

Got into alot of trouble because as I have mentioned, I am a sampler. One or two bites and I'm done especially when it came to my dad's or brother's food!! My mother would yell, 'Get back here, sit down and finish your plate!!" (Julia translating her mother's Japanese English).

I sat there for a very long while daydreaming and then I was sent to bed.

I don't see it as being a stretch that when we release our clay forms that eating will even be an issue at all. Just a choice if we want to.

For now, I'm just InJoying the ride and your sharing.

Love to you and all,

Julia

[Adrian]

Dear Kailaurius,

Thank you for that.

I would add, as I have said before, no child is born in to this world as a rabid eater of animal flesh. Eating meat is a programmed process.

Our digestive system is unambiguously not designed for meat. Meat eating animals have much shorter intestines to process and expel meat as quickly as possible. They also have much stronger stomach acid for that same reason. The reason that colon cancer is escalating fast is because the human body cannot efficiently process and expel meat before it becomes stuck and rancid in the intestines.

It makes me laugh when I hear people say "we need meat to grow big and strong". The truth is all of the very largest animals in the world including elephant, giraffe etc, are 100% plant eaters. In prehistoric times all the truly massive dinosaurs - the sauropods - were all plant eaters - every single one of them without exception.

It is also ironic that people who eat cows say they need to do so for protein, when the cows themselves are exclusively herbivores. That's like saying you need to drink milk for the calcium.

The real fact of the matter is that meat eaters cannot imagine doing without meat, and construct their arguments accordingly however fallacious their argument is, so they can continue to gratify their sense of taste.

No Enlightened or Spiritually aware person could ever eat animals because they know very well our connection with them, not to mention the ethics and Love towards all Life.

Diet, along with Service to others before Service to Self and Unconditional Love are all foundations of Spiritual Evolution where it becomes overwhelmingly impossible to even entertain the idea of eating animals. Becoming Vegan is not a decision as such, it us something we become and welcome for what it represents.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
  

[HareOm]

i wish to go on an extensive fruit juice fast, Adrian was it "hard" to overcome the habitual desire to eat, and the minds way of insisting that its a "good idea" ?

it is not that the hunger is the main issue at all,

i am receiving a Kriya initiation soon, and liquid fasting for many days before it would greatly enhance the experience methinks + knows

now on the whole feeding your kids  / indoctri-Nation thing...

there are delegates and emissaries of ritualized fear mechanisms which sprout and spout things out of prejudiced mouths that are not capable of assessing from multiple angles at once

and not, really, at all capable of truly understand and moving beyond social hive programs into the realm of what Plato called the Forms, actual True Knowledge, Right knowledge, of what is occurring

for instance an angel,a  telepath, and intuitive, would understand that a child does not "have" to eat, for, being a being as the rest of us, will naturally request what it hungers for
hence yelling or in any way disciplining the child's intuition is not acceptable ever, in any circumstances, when what i am talking about applies, where it applies, not to b e confused with a prescription of rules to follow
hereby emanated within the collective,

listen to the situations at hand and apply your intuition to understand, especially when dealing with children!

now then.............

[Mina-Laura]

     

Oh wow this thread becomes more and more personalized.
I guess we all know how passionate is Adrian about not eating meat, eggs, milk and onions …lol.
Truth is the first time I got his letters I said in my silent voice: “Oh, wow is this guy weird or what? I mean come on it sounds great and idealistic but at practical level... hmmm who can do that. Realistically.” 
Yet here I am 2 years gave up on eating any moving, flesh that seemingly has a higher form of autonomical life. And here I am now on my 4rd vegan day . Ha Adrian you are not the only weird one. 

Dear Julia, Laura et al,

This is turning in to a fascinating subject.

Ha ha ha ha ha..

Hey guys!!! I don’t know if you noticed but I don’t think I ever told anyone what to eat or not. So, as far as I’m concerned you are above my opinion. When you are ready and feel like you might. Is all good in my universe.

Julia my love for you is not diminished by your palate preferences.

Anyway just for your info every day of my new vegan commitment I am having a new and delightful higher realm experience.

ta ta this body needs its sleep now

lovya all



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbQ-2CCLPE0

[Freedom]

Wow, this thread is becoming more personalised as Laura said, and I respect and am very interested by everyones stories.

I would just like to quit eating for good! Linda Goodman reckons that u can be a breath-arian. Just live on light.
 

Even when I was a kid, I thought if only we could just pop a pill that gives us the feeling of fullness, without eating or killing even plants to eat. That was b4 I heard about breath/light food. ... which i still dont know about properly.

Anyway, I never eat much at all. I am a real pain to others if I go to tea at their house, cos I ask for the smallest serving possible and often dont even finish that. It is difficult at social occasions such as christmas, and other dinner parties. I hate going out to dinner, the servings for one are more than I eat in a week!
The ttrouble is people get offended and are always trying to make you eat. After all, as Laura's mum says, they work wiht love to feed people. That is their way of showing they care so much.
I tried to tell one of my friends, I come to visit YOU, the food is not important... but I could tell she was still a bit offended and her husband was affronted like I had offended their hospitalilty..
It came to the stage where I just had to be blunt to let them know that I , in fact, was feeling offended ( I wasn't really, but i had to talk in the language they understand), I was not happy that everyone kept commenting on what I ate or not.
It is ridiculous that people judge u on what amount of food you eat. I would prefer not to eat at all. Maybe just taste "sensations" but not real eating.
I can't eat 3 meals a day, it makes me feel sick to think of it.
Even planning meals for my partner became a chore so I asked the angels to do that work for me. Apparently , there are angels hanging around , asking us for some work to do, cos they want to help humans on their path, cos them helping us is actually helping them, THEY really want us to ask for their help. So, I did that,.. and it has really helped a lot! They just come up with a recipe idea for me. Thanks angels 

I have never been a big eater, or meat eater, but once, years ago, I decided to go vegetarian . So, I did that , quite easily , for 6 months.  And then - strangest thing happened - I , for first time ever, actually craved meat, can you believe it?  So, I ate some meat again, and was not a veggie any longer. I wonder if some strange force was at work, cos b4, I never craved any food, let alone meat.

Anyway, after all that, I am back to eating very lightly, grazing, if u will.
I really am not into eating.
I want to just breath my nutrition. That is why I bless everything I consume, and I am perfectly healthy in every way.
This is a most fascinating subject, and however your aim turns out, Laura, you are blessed cos of your wonderful intent.

Love and thanks to everyone interested in this thread.

I would love a heart emoticon on this site !!!

[zensunni7]

Hi

Never done vegan, but went vegetarian in the Air Force.
I weighed ALOT when I went into the service, I lost all the weight and vowed to never be that big again or that unhealthy.
I am with you Freedom - I do not eat alot during the day and one ' meal ' at dinner. I like being a vegetarian, but vegan does not raw me to it for some reason. I believe we need to eat when were are hungry, not because it is ' time to eat '
When raising the kids, I put food in the frig for them to eat when they wanted, cut up veggies, fruit, and small cut sandwiches. I ate with them at dinner, but I did want them growing up feeling food was a cure for boredom, or even a form of entertainment.
I also agree that people can get very offended if you do not gorge on food they fix. But there's not much to say - except the truth.
Besides I had to put up with all the veggie jokes.
Wheres Darrell ? Oh, he stopped in the park to graze for dinner! SO it all evens out. The pyramid is very cool though, it is a good quick guide for people -
Thank you Laura.

Darrell